jonny football hero
Master Don Juan
What are your main problems with approaching women?
Write them in here, and let's see if we can work them out.
Write them in here, and let's see if we can work them out.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
What is you main problem?
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
InsidiousNstinct
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Usually trying to keep the convo going. I've learned though that short conversations with new people is good. Keeps you a lil mysterious.
I'm guessing noone else is posting because their all great at approaching women, or they never approach. Hmmm...I think its the latter..
I'm guessing noone else is posting because their all great at approaching women, or they never approach. Hmmm...I think its the latter..
Supero Masculus
Don Juan
My main problem is falling for the seducer and getting burned for it later. One time at my friends house i was over at one of his parties (no alchohol or anything) and his sister was giving me all the right signals, i fell for em, came on to strong and got burned.
It wasn't until later that i realized that i totally missed the piont of being a challenge and remaining that way.
It wasn't until later that i realized that i totally missed the piont of being a challenge and remaining that way.
The main problem I have is not remaining a challenge. Short convos at the beginning are great but I also like to add in some longer convos every once ina while to make me look more mysterious. I fall too fast and put a lot of importance on pre date convos when I know I shouldn't. That's really my main problem.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Shiraz
Don Juan
The problem i have is im to shy LOL YEH, im gonna try and talk to some girls tommrow my best lets see how it goes im gonna try and get a hug from the fittest girl in the school lets see if i can talk to her first lol
jonny football hero
Master Don Juan
Your main problem seems to be conversation. I had great difficulty with that one (until recently). This is going to sound cliche, but the only thing you can do is practice.
Here's a good excersize to try out. Go into a clothes shop, into the womans section, find a hot assistant and tell them your buying clothes for a girlfriend of yours, ask her whats in style and ask her to pick some clothes out (you don't have to buy them), then just drop something in like "she's in need of new clothes, she's going on holiday, to!place! and shes really excited, it supposed to be really nice", then ask her if she's ever been. She'll talk for ages. don't try for a number close unless you feel 100% that she will say yes. after all, this is practice.
The thing with conversation is that get them on the right topic and women ramble on for ages. For instance i got one girl onto holidays, she couldn't shut up for 10 mins!
If she seems short. So what? Leave. practice on some-one else until this conversation thing is as easy as jerking off.
Here's a good excersize to try out. Go into a clothes shop, into the womans section, find a hot assistant and tell them your buying clothes for a girlfriend of yours, ask her whats in style and ask her to pick some clothes out (you don't have to buy them), then just drop something in like "she's in need of new clothes, she's going on holiday, to!place! and shes really excited, it supposed to be really nice", then ask her if she's ever been. She'll talk for ages. don't try for a number close unless you feel 100% that she will say yes. after all, this is practice.
The thing with conversation is that get them on the right topic and women ramble on for ages. For instance i got one girl onto holidays, she couldn't shut up for 10 mins!
If she seems short. So what? Leave. practice on some-one else until this conversation thing is as easy as jerking off.
for me finding the right one, having less time talking to the girl the higher the sucess rate, when you talk keep it simple, stay cool dont be astonished by her hot looks, and dont feel bad when you get rejected. its a part of life.