Im gonna read the DJ Bible, so my question is how should i start? should i read what i suck at the most... or just read the whole package? someof you guys says that alotof what have been writted in DJ bible isBULL**** and not true etc.. whic thread is that?
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
WHat is the best way to read the dj bible?
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
It's not that what's in the DJB is BS... it's just that a lot of it is unnecessary. Also, there is a fair amount of conflicting information in the DJB, which can confuse people. I'd say a good start would be to read anything labelled "Must Read". After that, if you still have any unanswered questions, browse the other links in the DJB and try to find your answers there. However, the "Conversation" section of the DJB is crap, IMO. Go to http://www.charismaarts.com instead and read the blogs there.
There's a link at the top-left that says "Get involved: blogs, audio, and forum". Click there, and then select one of the names listed at the top right. Not all of the blogs have advice in them, but the ones that do have very good stuff.
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Sean O said:
AHAHAHAHA!!!
Charisma Arts!!
LOL!
You're such a tool dude.
Good luck with that! :crackup: :crackup:
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
...I think you may be having a little too much fun with that one, CMD. Either that, or you're just really easy to amuse. Just chillax, man 
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Anyway, I directed Sacrifice to charisma arts because the advice given in some of the blogs is much more general and easier to apply than the stuff in the conversation section of the DJB. And I've found that it works far better, anyway. Having said that, you sound reasonably certain that I'm a "tool" for leading him there, so why don't you give him some better advice instead? Grace us with your divine wisdom, Daddy!
.Anyway, I directed Sacrifice to charisma arts because the advice given in some of the blogs is much more general and easier to apply than the stuff in the conversation section of the DJB. And I've found that it works far better, anyway. Having said that, you sound reasonably certain that I'm a "tool" for leading him there, so why don't you give him some better advice instead? Grace us with your divine wisdom, Daddy!
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No thanks. There is already so much flying around. Just read and learn and observe and don't take anything as definite or gospel.Sean O said:
However watch out for heavily marketed crap like "Charisma Arts" and other seminars. They are intended to make money, so they water down the information and they give it to you a little at a time leaving you to come back for more. And they don't give you the whole picture anyway (there's a reason for this).
The best thing you can do is find a player/DJ working the field in your area that you admire and learn from him.
Not from some marketing gurus wanting to sell seminars and books and DVDs and tapes and t-shirts and.... more expensive junk. If you want to fall for that, then: :crackup: .
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I agree with call me daddy I would only take a bootcamp as last resort. I thought about it because I wanted to and I figured if they can do it so can I, god damn it.
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Hindsight biases are in play too. People internalize stuff in DJB,PUA materials,etc, then later say "it's all common sense man!" Or "I don't do anything and I attract women like mad". There is an eventual internalization that occurs and small changes in peer groups/lifestyle/attitude create a new effect regarding how the world treats you. Your mind registers all that and within a year or two, the old person is pretty much dead. It's something that silently happens, and I don't think a lot of guys even realize it occured.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
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Speculation based on history. I like to study the world of business. Stuff like marketing, fluctuations in stocks, trends, etc. Its a hobby of mine.Slevin said:
I'm not going to write this all out for you. But if you want some proof: dig up some of those threads by David Deangelo. They show the decline of the quality of his products over the years starting with Double Your Dating. You'll also find stuff by Mystery, Thundercat, and other gurus selling "top notch dating advice" for more proof.
I'm not posting it up, but feel free to post some if you have the time so all may see.
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Needed a rewrite... makes me look like I'm "talking out of my ass". A real argument has proof which I had to include.Slevin said:
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
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Take the names and put them into the "search box" and presto! Like magic!Slevin said:
Here it is again if you missed it the first time:
Dig up some of those threads by David Deangelo. They show the decline of the quality of his products over the years starting with Double Your Dating. You'll also find stuff by Mystery, Thundercat, and other gurus selling "top notch dating advice".
How about I look up Juggler instead?Call_Me_Daddy said:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=23562
Read my post again, CMD. I never said that Sacrifice should pay for the seminars. In fact, I'd advise him not to, since plenty of people have learned to succeed with women without spending all that money. All I said was that he should look at the blogs for advice on conversation. After reading both the conversation section of the DJB and the blogs on that site, I've found that the blogs offer much better and more practical advice on conversation than the DJB does, even if the blogs are "watered down".
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Just read the damn thing most of it wont even apply to you. Stop asking stupid questions and just do it !!!