Im gonna read the DJ Bible, so my question is how should i start? should i read what i suck at the most... or just read the whole package? someof you guys says that alotof what have been writted in DJ bible isBULL**** and not true etc.. whic thread is that?
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
WHat is the best way to read the dj bible?
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
It's not that what's in the DJB is BS... it's just that a lot of it is unnecessary. Also, there is a fair amount of conflicting information in the DJB, which can confuse people. I'd say a good start would be to read anything labelled "Must Read". After that, if you still have any unanswered questions, browse the other links in the DJB and try to find your answers there. However, the "Conversation" section of the DJB is crap, IMO. Go to http://www.charismaarts.com instead and read the blogs there.
There's a link at the top-left that says "Get involved: blogs, audio, and forum". Click there, and then select one of the names listed at the top right. Not all of the blogs have advice in them, but the ones that do have very good stuff.
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Sean O said:
AHAHAHAHA!!!
Charisma Arts!!
LOL!
You're such a tool dude.
Good luck with that! :crackup: :crackup:
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
...I think you may be having a little too much fun with that one, CMD. Either that, or you're just really easy to amuse. Just chillax, man 
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Anyway, I directed Sacrifice to charisma arts because the advice given in some of the blogs is much more general and easier to apply than the stuff in the conversation section of the DJB. And I've found that it works far better, anyway. Having said that, you sound reasonably certain that I'm a "tool" for leading him there, so why don't you give him some better advice instead? Grace us with your divine wisdom, Daddy!
.Anyway, I directed Sacrifice to charisma arts because the advice given in some of the blogs is much more general and easier to apply than the stuff in the conversation section of the DJB. And I've found that it works far better, anyway. Having said that, you sound reasonably certain that I'm a "tool" for leading him there, so why don't you give him some better advice instead? Grace us with your divine wisdom, Daddy!
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No thanks. There is already so much flying around. Just read and learn and observe and don't take anything as definite or gospel.Sean O said:
However watch out for heavily marketed crap like "Charisma Arts" and other seminars. They are intended to make money, so they water down the information and they give it to you a little at a time leaving you to come back for more. And they don't give you the whole picture anyway (there's a reason for this).
The best thing you can do is find a player/DJ working the field in your area that you admire and learn from him.
Not from some marketing gurus wanting to sell seminars and books and DVDs and tapes and t-shirts and.... more expensive junk. If you want to fall for that, then: :crackup: .
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I agree with call me daddy I would only take a bootcamp as last resort. I thought about it because I wanted to and I figured if they can do it so can I, god damn it.
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Hindsight biases are in play too. People internalize stuff in DJB,PUA materials,etc, then later say "it's all common sense man!" Or "I don't do anything and I attract women like mad". There is an eventual internalization that occurs and small changes in peer groups/lifestyle/attitude create a new effect regarding how the world treats you. Your mind registers all that and within a year or two, the old person is pretty much dead. It's something that silently happens, and I don't think a lot of guys even realize it occured.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
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Speculation based on history. I like to study the world of business. Stuff like marketing, fluctuations in stocks, trends, etc. Its a hobby of mine.Slevin said:
I'm not going to write this all out for you. But if you want some proof: dig up some of those threads by David Deangelo. They show the decline of the quality of his products over the years starting with Double Your Dating. You'll also find stuff by Mystery, Thundercat, and other gurus selling "top notch dating advice" for more proof.
I'm not posting it up, but feel free to post some if you have the time so all may see.
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Needed a rewrite... makes me look like I'm "talking out of my ass". A real argument has proof which I had to include.Slevin said:
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
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Take the names and put them into the "search box" and presto! Like magic!Slevin said:
Here it is again if you missed it the first time:
Dig up some of those threads by David Deangelo. They show the decline of the quality of his products over the years starting with Double Your Dating. You'll also find stuff by Mystery, Thundercat, and other gurus selling "top notch dating advice".
How about I look up Juggler instead?Call_Me_Daddy said:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=23562
Read my post again, CMD. I never said that Sacrifice should pay for the seminars. In fact, I'd advise him not to, since plenty of people have learned to succeed with women without spending all that money. All I said was that he should look at the blogs for advice on conversation. After reading both the conversation section of the DJB and the blogs on that site, I've found that the blogs offer much better and more practical advice on conversation than the DJB does, even if the blogs are "watered down".
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Just read the damn thing most of it wont even apply to you. Stop asking stupid questions and just do it !!!