I think I messed up with this girl but i want to know how do you go about it I tried kissing her she wouldnt let me and i tried massage her and then linger to her ***** and breast and she would not lrt me. I tried to kiss her when she left she wouldnt let me she said she needs more time. How do you usually do it? And what is the longest you would give a girl before nexting her without sex?
Hey brother,
As a few men have stated previously, proud of you for making the move. That's the hardest part is actually going for it, most men get paralyzed and regret it for the rest of the day.
Second, to your question, there are no rules or standardized processes. Everyone is different and move at different paces. So it's all about gauging the situation and the girl's attraction level to you. It is also important to set the environment and vibe for it. We typically do not recommend even waiting for the 2nd or 3rd date to make a move. If a girl is truly interested in you and the mood is right, we suggest going for a kiss on the 1st date. Nothing major or over the top just a quick 3-second kiss followed by saying something either about the kiss and playing it cool and carry on or continue the conversation you were having prior to the kiss, playing it cool and carry on. Do not get hung up on the kiss and put it on a pedestal. Playing it cool is key as it shows composure.
Also, do not massage her or try to touch her breasts if she is not even allowing you to kiss her. Respect her boundaries and again, play it cool. Do not get in an argument or discussion about it as that shows insecurity and seeks validation. If it's easier, getting close to her and merely touching her shoulder or thigh as if it was a normal and regular thing to break that physical barrier. Then you can always use humor to get even closer and closer, playfully tease her about something she said or did, or about the way you are touching her by asking her playful questions. Once you are close enough (face to face) you can just feel when a girl wants you to kiss her. There will be an eye to eye connection and often she will bite her lip and look at your lips. There are certain subconscious behaviors women will display when she feels physically attracted, close, and trusting of you.
The thing to remember is that it is all subjective to the individual and context and more importantly down to practice and repetition. The more you try different things with different girls you start finding out what works on certain women. There are so many methods you can try, seduction is truly an art and it takes time for those that is not innate to them. But we all get a chance to practice and "perfect" the art. You did what was in your control and that was making a move. And that is big. Take that as a significant win.
At the end of the day, the truth is simple: If a girl is really into you, she will not hesitate to kiss you or get physical with you (just don't cross any boundaries if she has any, no means no and there's plenty of fish on the sea to get hung up about a girl that doesn't want to feel you.).
Hope this helps man.
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