"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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I never called her after the first one until last week. The date was ok, she talked a lot about her ex boyfriends, said most of her friends are guys, told me some wild stories of her partying. We had a good conversation going most of the night, no real akward silences, but i couldn't pick up if she is interested or not. SHE DID SAY THAT that she is not looking for a relationship right now cuz she had a tough one end in the fall. That seems like a red flag to me.
 
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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i wish it was that easy...she seemed like all of her wild crzy partying is behind her, and she learned her lessons, so i don't think hit and quit it will work with this girl.
 
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"she talked a lot about her ex boyfriends"......

"told me some wild stories of her partying".....

"SHE DID SAY THAT that she is not looking for a relationship right now"....

"she thanked me for the dinner (which I paid for), smiled, and left"...

"What is confusing is why she would go out with me after such a long time of not being in touch? Should I persue this or just move on to another girl?"
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Her EX-BFs gave her a thrill-a-minute and she was every which way and loose with them. You (on the other hand) are a "nice" safe guy who paid her dinner (yes, all girls love being taken to a nice restaurant), listened to her attentively like a therapist, and dropped her off with a handshake (?). Very respectful of you. Don't be surprised if she does keep in touch with you and wants you as a "friend only".
 
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well I don't want to be as cynical as THE RAKE but I share some of his comments on this girl.

"talking about ex-boyfriends" = red flag number #1
, would you talk about your ex-girlfriends in front of a girl you were planning to date or dating initially?

"says most of her friends are guys" = red flag number #2, a well rounded person will either have mostly friends of the same gender or have an equal amount of genders. a person who has a huge ego will not get along with someone of the same gender.

"she is not looking for a relationship right now" = red flag #3, when a girl says that outloud it means she doesn't want anything serious with you.

she probably contacted you cause she has no one else to contact and finds you a 'nice guy' to keep her company for awhile. you got 3 strikes and you're out.

oh yeah, NEXT HER!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I think you guys are right, but i dunno if acting like ass would have made me more attractive to her, since it looks like she has been in a relationship with a guy who cheated on her before. Have any of you had a girl you went out with who actually answered her cell phone calls during the date and then agreed to see you again?
I think that pretty much seals the deal, if a girl is interested i would imagine she would not answere her cell while on a date with you. But may be i'm over analyzing here.
 
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I would have told her you dont want to hear about her exs and if she kept doing it I would have told her that I had to go.
 
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Originally posted by DimaDrill
I think you guys are right, but i dunno if acting like ass would have made me more attractive to her, since it looks like she has been in a relationship with a guy who cheated on her before. Have any of you had a girl you went out with who actually answered her cell phone calls during the date and then agreed to see you again?
I think that pretty much seals the deal, if a girl is interested i would imagine she would not answere her cell while on a date with you. But may be i'm over analyzing here.
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uh, why wouldn't she answer her cell? if it's important or pertains to the event at hand i don't care. however if she's on a social call - she better cut that sh1t out within a minute.
 
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I just think taking calls during a date is like talking on the phone in the movie theater, it is kinda disrespectful.
 
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"says most of her friends are guys" = red flag number #2, a well rounded person will either have mostly friends of the same gender or have an equal amount of genders. a person who has a huge ego will not get along with someone of the same gender.
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I knew that was a big red flag, but that ego thing didnt even occur to me. wow.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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