"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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What is it YOU want exactly DJ's?

nan3109

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From reading all the posts and being here awhile I've come to the conclusion that most of you aren't getting laid because your trying to be the girl's friend before you do stuff with her (or laid) or you play so many games that you never get laid.

Getting laid is easy, it's salesmen skills. There is an opening, a connection, a phone number or room number along with a meeting, then you hang out and get the 'sale.'

You just have to operate smoothly, be laid back, not give a ****, and make the first move while being entertaing and interesting enough to hold your 'customers' interest in you.

You must also recognize low interest and when to give up on a sale and find a new buyer.

It's sales, simple.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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DJ_Dork

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Yes to "Sales Presentation when you're trying to be friends" but that's only for the FEMALE SIDE. But all of you are WRONG on guys doing the sell. Why do girls put on makeup, put on sexy clothes, shoes. THEY ARE SELLING THEMSELVES.

So nope to the above posters who say it's a Man's job to "sales present" - Ever notice that girls who are interested in you will try to be your friend (She shows concern, is curious about you.)

The AFC attempts to have a relationship with a girl by "trying to be friends with her" he asks about her, he wants to know what's up in her life, etc. That's just nice.

MEN ARE BUYERS. GET IT?
 

00Kevin

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Originally posted by SIXPAKGQ
when you are trying to be friends with her first, thats the sales presentation

you still don't get it do you?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I don't see any sales translation here at all.

I agree that men are not sellers we are buyers. If I want something I get it not the other way around.
 
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