"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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What is everyone's opinion on dating single moms?

MedDude

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Just trying to get everyone's opinions/experiences on this.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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RecoveringAFC

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My rule is don't.

For that matter:
- Don't date single moms
- Don't date people who are financially in a different space than you
- Don't date people in a different place in life than you
- Don't date people who are a different religion (and care about it)
- Don't date crazy
- Don't date an ex
 

Greasy Pig

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This has been covered extensively in an earlier thread a few months ago but I have banged a few single mums for a few weeks at a time, never anything serious though.
I think you just have to remember that her kids are her No.1 priority (well I hope so).
So while you're sniffing around trying to pound that puzzy, really, you are No.2 and always will be.
If you can handle that, go for it but don't be pi$$ed off when she keeps ditching you because she can't find a sitter or because she has to get up early to take the kids to soccer practice.

EDIT: Lol, I basically just repeated Danger's advice but I didn't see it before I posted. Good sh!t, Danger.
 

SecondHalf

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MedDude said:
Just trying to get everyone's opinions/experiences on this.
I'm on the opposite side of the fence here.
I'll only date single moms.
I'm a full time single dad, the women I've dated with no kids in the last couple years are problematic.

Also, I find they are a tad hungrier, have no interest in more Children and there is no rush to get the relationship real serious (most of them anyway).

SH
 

Maximummax

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Danger said:
I have dated several single mothers....but really just for the sex.

The biggest problem is that you will always be number 2 to the child. Never any exceptions.

The next biggest problem is that her ex will always be in the picture as well.

For the two reasons above, I avoid any kind of relationship with them.

Great answer

I will add one more point, If you are good with women/girls you can handle her easily with out getting attached to her.

If you are not much experienced girls in general, stay away from single mom's. they are pain in the ass.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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If you date single moms you are the lowest form of male life, you exist right beside the guys who feel lucky to date 300 lb warpigs... I am ashamed and disgusted that someone with DJ skills would even consider this.

Its like getting a degree in nuclear physics to go and beg on the street and root through trash bins.
 

speed dawg

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If you're a single dad and in a similar place, then go for it. If you're single, I say go for single women.

I fvcked alot of single moms when I was single, but I wouldn't seriously date any of them since I was just in a different place. But there again, at that point I was just in it for the hors and easy pvssy.
 

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If you are past 35 and especially 40, most of the women in your age range are going to have kids if only to have one before their egg sacs dry out.

The good thing about older women with kids are that they usually don't require special mommy time anymore. In my age group, their kids better have a drivers license and ready to move out.

Any chick under the age of 30 with kids should be off limits for any other purposes than sex.
 

ilikecharlene

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Hmm... only for sex as has been said.

Dating? hell no. I don't want to raise another man's child. It may be unPC to say, but single mothers are near the bottom of dating desirability.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Only f**k them.

These days, they've got entitlement issues out the ass.

They got the seed from an alpha, now want the beta to provide/ raise said seed.

Case closed.
 

Maximummax

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nismo-4 said:
Only f**k them.

These days, they've got entitlement issues out the ass.

They got the seed from an alpha, now want the beta to provide/ raise said seed.

Case closed.

Awesome Answer Again Nismo :D
 
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