"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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What is everyone's opinion on dating single moms?

MedDude

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Just trying to get everyone's opinions/experiences on this.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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RecoveringAFC

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My rule is don't.

For that matter:
- Don't date single moms
- Don't date people who are financially in a different space than you
- Don't date people in a different place in life than you
- Don't date people who are a different religion (and care about it)
- Don't date crazy
- Don't date an ex
 

Greasy Pig

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This has been covered extensively in an earlier thread a few months ago but I have banged a few single mums for a few weeks at a time, never anything serious though.
I think you just have to remember that her kids are her No.1 priority (well I hope so).
So while you're sniffing around trying to pound that puzzy, really, you are No.2 and always will be.
If you can handle that, go for it but don't be pi$$ed off when she keeps ditching you because she can't find a sitter or because she has to get up early to take the kids to soccer practice.

EDIT: Lol, I basically just repeated Danger's advice but I didn't see it before I posted. Good sh!t, Danger.
 

SecondHalf

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MedDude said:
Just trying to get everyone's opinions/experiences on this.
I'm on the opposite side of the fence here.
I'll only date single moms.
I'm a full time single dad, the women I've dated with no kids in the last couple years are problematic.

Also, I find they are a tad hungrier, have no interest in more Children and there is no rush to get the relationship real serious (most of them anyway).

SH
 

Maximummax

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Danger said:
I have dated several single mothers....but really just for the sex.

The biggest problem is that you will always be number 2 to the child. Never any exceptions.

The next biggest problem is that her ex will always be in the picture as well.

For the two reasons above, I avoid any kind of relationship with them.

Great answer

I will add one more point, If you are good with women/girls you can handle her easily with out getting attached to her.

If you are not much experienced girls in general, stay away from single mom's. they are pain in the ass.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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If you date single moms you are the lowest form of male life, you exist right beside the guys who feel lucky to date 300 lb warpigs... I am ashamed and disgusted that someone with DJ skills would even consider this.

Its like getting a degree in nuclear physics to go and beg on the street and root through trash bins.
 

speed dawg

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If you're a single dad and in a similar place, then go for it. If you're single, I say go for single women.

I fvcked alot of single moms when I was single, but I wouldn't seriously date any of them since I was just in a different place. But there again, at that point I was just in it for the hors and easy pvssy.
 

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If you are past 35 and especially 40, most of the women in your age range are going to have kids if only to have one before their egg sacs dry out.

The good thing about older women with kids are that they usually don't require special mommy time anymore. In my age group, their kids better have a drivers license and ready to move out.

Any chick under the age of 30 with kids should be off limits for any other purposes than sex.
 

ilikecharlene

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Hmm... only for sex as has been said.

Dating? hell no. I don't want to raise another man's child. It may be unPC to say, but single mothers are near the bottom of dating desirability.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Only f**k them.

These days, they've got entitlement issues out the ass.

They got the seed from an alpha, now want the beta to provide/ raise said seed.

Case closed.
 

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nismo-4 said:
Only f**k them.

These days, they've got entitlement issues out the ass.

They got the seed from an alpha, now want the beta to provide/ raise said seed.

Case closed.

Awesome Answer Again Nismo :D
 
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