That's right. I know this girl that claims she is a virgin and she really is. Her bf, who is my cousin, even told me she was and that they never had sex. But, he told me that they did "everything" but sex, including fingering her and her doing blowwjobs. So, I asked her if she was a virgin and she said yes. Then I told her, I think that's bs you saying you are a virgin when you have been fingered and also done oral sex. She says that fingering and oral sex is not sex, so she is a virgin. In a way, I agree with her, but in a way I disagree with her because being fingered and oral is not very "virgin like". What are your guys opinions on this? Is a girl a virgin even if she has done everything but sex, or not a virgin? I'm kinda in the middle on this.
"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
What is a virgin?
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Yes it does.Skel said:getting fingered and having oral sex does not mean she lost her virginity
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From Chasing Amy "virginity is lost through physical penetration"
“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
Charm&Style
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Dude the whole point of being a virgin is refraining from doing sexual practices with someone. So yes maybe her cherry hasnt popped yet, but i wouldnt consider this girl a virgin by my idealogy.
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In that case, I lost my virginity at 10 years old.
Actually, 14, but meh
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Virgin = untouched, not blemished by sexual contact with another person, pure!
She is a typical hor trying to justify her hordoms - stupid hor states in a girly innocent high pitched voice, "I chomp on a penis as if it were a Vlassic pickle yet I am unblemished and pure!"...
Welcome to the 21st century Hor logic!!
Say "No" to hos!!!
She is a typical hor trying to justify her hordoms - stupid hor states in a girly innocent high pitched voice, "I chomp on a penis as if it were a Vlassic pickle yet I am unblemished and pure!"...
Welcome to the 21st century Hor logic!!
Say "No" to hos!!!
Kevin Cass
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in my book virgin means not penetrated (as in penis going into vagina). that doesnt mean a girl hasn't been eaten out, sucked ****, gotten fingered, given handjobs.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
What if the girl had tons of ANAL? the definition of virgin is so loose. I think she's still a virgin if she hasn't done ANAL, normal sex, skull F8cked or finger f*cked. o well doesn't matter by the end of highschool only the wicked ugly, prude or religious ones are "virgins" which probably accounts for 5% of the whole school.
Scrumtulescence
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Oral sex is sex. Virginity is never having had sex. Therefore, having oral sex means you've lost your virginity.
Some girls are so dumb. I heard of a few religious girls that didn't want to be penetrated vaginally until marriage so they allow men to fvck them in the ass. But in their mind they are still virgins. :crackup: yeah tell that to your future husband, I am sure he will agree with you lol.
Virginity dictionary definition: "The condition of being chaste: chastity, decency, innocence, modesty, purity, virtue, virtuousness."
I don't think girls that give oral and had their slit fingered can fall under any of the terms described above to qualify as a virgin.
Virginity dictionary definition: "The condition of being chaste: chastity, decency, innocence, modesty, purity, virtue, virtuousness."
I don't think girls that give oral and had their slit fingered can fall under any of the terms described above to qualify as a virgin.
DJ_in_making
Master Don Juan
Scrumtulescence said:Oral sex is sex. Virginity is never having had sex. Therefore, having oral sex means you've lost your virginity.
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Virginity= not having sex.... I heard of a PORNO star thats considered a virgin b/c she only has anal sex. I think this technicality is just a way of people to justify their misconducts.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.