That's right. I know this girl that claims she is a virgin and she really is. Her bf, who is my cousin, even told me she was and that they never had sex. But, he told me that they did "everything" but sex, including fingering her and her doing blowwjobs. So, I asked her if she was a virgin and she said yes. Then I told her, I think that's bs you saying you are a virgin when you have been fingered and also done oral sex. She says that fingering and oral sex is not sex, so she is a virgin. In a way, I agree with her, but in a way I disagree with her because being fingered and oral is not very "virgin like". What are your guys opinions on this? Is a girl a virgin even if she has done everything but sex, or not a virgin? I'm kinda in the middle on this.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
What is a virgin?
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Yes it does.Skel said:getting fingered and having oral sex does not mean she lost her virginity
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From Chasing Amy "virginity is lost through physical penetration"
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Charm&Style
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Dude the whole point of being a virgin is refraining from doing sexual practices with someone. So yes maybe her cherry hasnt popped yet, but i wouldnt consider this girl a virgin by my idealogy.
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In that case, I lost my virginity at 10 years old.
Actually, 14, but meh
Actually, 14, but meh
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Virgin = untouched, not blemished by sexual contact with another person, pure!
She is a typical hor trying to justify her hordoms - stupid hor states in a girly innocent high pitched voice, "I chomp on a penis as if it were a Vlassic pickle yet I am unblemished and pure!"...
Welcome to the 21st century Hor logic!!
Say "No" to hos!!!
She is a typical hor trying to justify her hordoms - stupid hor states in a girly innocent high pitched voice, "I chomp on a penis as if it were a Vlassic pickle yet I am unblemished and pure!"...
Welcome to the 21st century Hor logic!!
Say "No" to hos!!!
Kevin Cass
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in my book virgin means not penetrated (as in penis going into vagina). that doesnt mean a girl hasn't been eaten out, sucked ****, gotten fingered, given handjobs.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
What if the girl had tons of ANAL? the definition of virgin is so loose. I think she's still a virgin if she hasn't done ANAL, normal sex, skull F8cked or finger f*cked. o well doesn't matter by the end of highschool only the wicked ugly, prude or religious ones are "virgins" which probably accounts for 5% of the whole school.
Scrumtulescence
Master Don Juan
Oral sex is sex. Virginity is never having had sex. Therefore, having oral sex means you've lost your virginity.
Some girls are so dumb. I heard of a few religious girls that didn't want to be penetrated vaginally until marriage so they allow men to fvck them in the ass. But in their mind they are still virgins. :crackup: yeah tell that to your future husband, I am sure he will agree with you lol.
Virginity dictionary definition: "The condition of being chaste: chastity, decency, innocence, modesty, purity, virtue, virtuousness."
I don't think girls that give oral and had their slit fingered can fall under any of the terms described above to qualify as a virgin.
Virginity dictionary definition: "The condition of being chaste: chastity, decency, innocence, modesty, purity, virtue, virtuousness."
I don't think girls that give oral and had their slit fingered can fall under any of the terms described above to qualify as a virgin.
DJ_in_making
Master Don Juan
Scrumtulescence said:Oral sex is sex. Virginity is never having had sex. Therefore, having oral sex means you've lost your virginity.
oral sex
Virginity= not having sex.... I heard of a PORNO star thats considered a virgin b/c she only has anal sex. I think this technicality is just a way of people to justify their misconducts.
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Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.