"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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What exactly is the right way to use dread?

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Does it have no use other than establishing or maintaining frame in a relationship?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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It helps to maintain frame - but speaking from experience, it is not a viable long term solution. If you find you are constantly having to use it in order to keep your plate/LTR in check you essentially have already lost unless you are good with having to use it forever. It gets exhausting.
 

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What is dread?
Making a woman think she is losing or has lost you in order to get her to shape up

 

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This, it isnt long term. In fact, if you hint you could walk out the door at a moments' notice due to her misbehavior, that could be the beginning of the end for your LTR prospects. Of course, it is attractive in the short term.
I agree -- I think especially if you are in a committed LTR and begin threatening to leave on a regular basis you are essentially creating toxicity -- on top of whatever bad behavior she is partaking in that is causing you to use dread to begin with. Yes, it does generate attraction in the short term because women love the emotional roller-coaster it puts them on and the feeling that they are not in control of you. But it also is going to create more tension in the relationship in general.
 

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How exactly do you put Dread game into practice?
Mostly through Silence and Distance in my experience, rather than explicit ultimatums.

Giving an ultimatum once may work, but if you rely on them it's like the boy who cried wolf and she'll call your bluff eventually.

S&D in general is best used as a natural response to sh!tty behaviour, not as a tool to modify behaviour, if that makes sense.

Good thread on it here: https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/silence-and-distance.247311/

As mentioned in that thread and as common sense, S&D shouldn't replace proper communication, specifically in LTRs. If you feel the need to repeatedly employ S&D in your relationships, you're with the wrong girl.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Dread should be used very sparingly or else it will turn into an all bark, no bite type situation and won't be taken as seriously next time.

Dread is something that should be used mainly in a stalemate scenario. Dread is what breaks the stalemate in a lot of scenarios. For example, if you've been really wronged in a certain way, or in a power struggle when she's trying to be the boss of you and not backing down, when you've already pointed out potential deal breakers with her but she continues doing them, etc.

Do not used Dread if she doesn't agree to getting the anchovies and olives pizza combo in other words...
 

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Then there is COVERT dread. Her realizing you have other options and are desirable to other women.

I think whether dread works depends a lot on the woman's attachment style....
 

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Can Silence and Distance reverse bad situations?

To me it calms the waters.. so that beats a pattern of arguing
 

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Dread should be used very sparingly or else it will turn into an all bark, no bite type situation and won't be taken as seriously next time.

Dread is something that should be used mainly in a stalemate scenario. Dread is what breaks the stalemate in a lot of scenarios. For example, if you've been really wronged in a certain way, or in a power struggle when she's trying to be the boss of you and not backing down, when you've already pointed out potential deal breakers with her but she continues doing them, etc.

Do not used Dread if she doesn't agree to getting the anchovies and olives pizza combo in other words...
I hadn’t actually thought of it that way.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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