"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
What does this mean?
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
War Against Betaism
Master Don Juan
I'm not quite sure what what she said means, but I know she's interested, but if I had to guess, I'd say she's never met someone who was able escalate things to that point so fast and was just taken a bit by surprise.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
War Against Betaism
Master Don Juan
Link is here: http://www.directnaturalgame.com/Techniques/kino-escalation-ladder.html
anyways thinks were getting heated up and i was on top of her and i was rubbing her body and got close to the holiest of holies. she gave resistance so i just made a joke and kept hooking up with her with no problem.
second time the same thing happened but i was closer, she said we havnet been going out enough and i said thats fine by me and keep hooking up.
third time was the charm i guess because i got it with no resistance at all for a minute then she made me stop....im pretty sure it was because she was getting even more heated up and things could have gotten out of her hands from there, but thats just my guess.
she told me the line i said in my original post a couple days after it happened
if it means anythin I am pretty sure (95%) she is a virgin, havent asked her though and i havent talked about it at all with her
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
RAPPORT, RAPPORT, RAPPORT, RAPPORT.
Get to know her more, but more importantly she needs to know who YOU ARE. she needs to know that you really care for her and not just another notch on your belt. If she is just a lay, and a virgin. PLease dont lay her because that is some f*ck up ****. It may mean nothing to you, but a girl will never forget.
Makes sense, only, i don't really know how to do that without looking like an total AFC.trd323 said:
now i already thought i established rapport on a few of the phone calls with her and on the couple of dates. i think she thinks i'm a player (in abundance of other girls), so that makes what u said definitely true.
only, i told her i'd be exclusive afterwards....that might have ben AFC in aftersight but we all make mistakes. at least i didnt ask HER to be exclusive
Trust me, I won't. Shes too cool for me to do something like that to her. Plus I'm not one of those fvcked up guys like some people who are out to get vengeance on women because they were slighted bythem in the past.trd323 said:
typical
Master Don Juan
Me thinks you need to learn your own way of seduction and not follow a set routine they don't work.
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Keep on trying.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
do u mean that in escalation or in just talking to her? Because i go by RSD's "being yourself" type deal; no canned lines, all me being confident in myself and funny.typical said:
and i use the dicarlo's ladder just as a guideline because 1) it has a natural flow withs its isolation (imo) and 2) there is always the chance for girls to put in their LMR. i never would have f*** closed on that date, and really, i didnt need to!
i get what your saying though