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What do I do about this (Been seeing a girl with bf/She says she will leave him/Sex)

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bobbates said:
Well ive done it - was so hard - and was very drawn out -

Basiclly she had a go at me for "dropping it on her" straight after work, Then told me she isnt ready yet but she thought she was - i said what happend she said she doesnt know. and it would be best if we were just friends for now. - I couldnt do that and told her that.

I said what do you get out of being with him? and what do you get out of being with me?

She said she does not know to both.

Then I was told im like all the other guys to just **** her off like this - I said I aint done anything but love you but you kept putting me through pain.

I also told her she was immuture with the whole 2 guys thing etc and i have to go.

She said she will do it but doesnt know when - and when she is ready she will not cos i say to.

I said ok i care for you a lot but I have to go now and blocked her on everything.

She said it was cos of the distance - and shes not 100% sure what i think of her.

I just did the only thing i could do and ended it and blocked her.

Timez
Ok. good. Now get on with your life. forget her. forget this thread. go do something now to get your mind TOTALLY off her.
 

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Just an update - In the end I couldnt stop talking to her - and ended up staying - about a month ago the "bf" left himself - and she didnt try to chase him back - or even try to contact him - there was one text where he said "you ok?" and she put "yeah".

Since that - there has been no contact with him at all - I think he found out we slept together tbh and vanished.

We are now in a relationship and I am the only man :)

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Just putting this out there because if I had of left her I wouldnt have her now.

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This probabbly won't work for everyone - but sometimes long shots do pay off!

She must have meant it all because as i say - she didnt even bother with him when he went and she doesnt even care lol
 

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Been talking to this girl online for many years, We got emotionally close, Have met a few times and continue to do so about once a month (its all i can afford atm)...
Yeah wants to sleep around on her boyfriend, sounds like a real keeper there chump.
 

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Her boyfriend who was emotionally unavalable towards her - and treated her like garbage...

maybe she just wanted someone to treat her like she deserves to be treated and found that in me...

Lets paint every girl with the same brush and then insult the guy shes with...

hows that going for you in life? - also jealous much?

yeah im a real chump - with a girl i love who loves me and the best sex i've ever had.

ill live i think lol
 

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SMH

Your girl was in a relationship with an emotionally unavailable man and all the while she was emotionally unavailable to you.

Pat yourself on the back. You scored a real prize buddy.
:cheer:
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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She wasnt emotionally unavalible to me - as i said - she was only still with him because she was worried - turns out actually that "all the while" she was fully emotionally avalible to me - and not to him - all i was missing was the title of bf - that was it.

And yes I have scored a real prize - I feel lucky to have her - she feels lucky to have me.

Not every woman on the planet is exactlly the same you know - come on - do you honestlly think all women are identical?

If so why bother with this site - why bother with being with any at all - why not just get with the first girl who comes your way - since they are all identical it doesnt make a difference right?

Can't beleve this sometimes I really cant - not everyone is right 100% of the time you know!

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Remember before the advice was they will never split up and im wasting my time - now thats actually happend - its oh right shes not a keeper - what happens when i come back here in how ever many years - and say she was - i spose it will be something else then?

unbelivable
 

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wow dude, you lost, you did not win.
 

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ok thank you but ill be the judge of that :) - im happy - shes happy - have fun
 

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what happens when you are on the other end of this? what made her change? Getting the chick does feel great, but the past behavior is the best indicator of future behavior. I wish you the best of luck.
 

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What made her change? - I wont treat her like just a friend and won't be emotionally dead to her like he was - pretty simple really...
 

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Question, are you still long distance? If so then good luck to you....if a "we told you so" moment comes up then learn from it and never do this sh!t again.
 

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Recipe for destruction! Some men'll never learn!
 

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Welp. I will say that I stole a girl from her bf once. I had been talking to her on the phone (long distance) for a couple weeks. I had asked her if she had a bf, and asked how it was between them, she said very little and seemed to want to avoid the subject. I had no drama. I think he used to text her, it probably hurt him real bad. I would just tell her, you need to tell him its over and to move on, don't give him hope. This is before I knew of the red pill.

I would mostly tell her about myself, ask about her. I was drunk every night, living at my best friends mom's house (he was in prison).

I was kinda acting beta, talking on the phone till 6 am. What I did with her, will never work for 98% of you with 99% of women.

However, one night I told her she should break up with her bf and date me. She said ok, then I said hang up call him break up, and then call me back. She did.

About a week later, she drove 8 hours to see me. We planned it out, she actually went out and made a deposit on a cabin about 7 hours north of me. Her plan was to drive 8 hours pick me up, and I drive another 7 hours to the cabin for 2 days and one night.

I told her, lets just stay in the city near me. She did agreed.

She paid for the hotel, for dinner, the museum, beer and smokes.

left for about a week, then she called me and said she was supposed to go move to Atalanta but the company she was supposed to internship for was jerking her around, and the lease on her apartment had expired so she was staying with a female friend of hers.

So I invited her to come stay with me where I lived, she did for two months. I woke up with cups of coffee in my face, bought me stuff, and I took her to all the cool places, places I spent a lot of time as a kid, and took her to do all different stuff.

Sex whenever I wanted.

Girls a Phd now.

However, she was very interested in me. I was the first American she dated, plus I was good looking, ect.

She moved mountains for me. If a woman doesn't move mountains for you, she has low interest or is leading you on, or your entertainment.

Its unlikely a ldr will succeed or that you will be able to steal a girl from her bf, and keep her loyal.

The girl I'm writing about is a Chinese international student. She was completely obese with me, very loyal, would come to me somtimes and say, we havent had sex in a while (because sometimes you get bored of them).

But don't let this give you hope. If she is western, or especially American you will never accomplish this, unless you have serious money, or just something extreme that women like.

She left me becuase I was an as$hole, and selfish it was very hard for her also. I was in a bad state for about three months before she finally built herself up enough to leave.

Sometimes I think she stayed, and still invested in me because when I fvcked her, she was to tired to walk every time, every time she orgasimed she had this crazy weird look in her face.

Its almost like being a cold a@s hole made her very sexually attracted to me, and it was why she didn't leave sooner.

Any way, don't do ldr's or attempt to steal a girl from her bf. It probably will be a waste of time.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Bobbates, all of your posts make me cringe. You know this isn't going to end well and you're going to be left wondering why you wasted so much time on this girl.

Not sure if srs or troll. Kinda hard to believe some guys are that desperate for pvssy.
 

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right ok - so lets say your wrong and she doesnt leave me doesnt cheat on me etc? - i feel like this guy - what happend to me wont happen to 98% of you 99% of times - I tried all the pua stuff with her - it didnt work - it was me being myself and warm and loving that made her like me in the first place.

Again tell me you are not saying every girl is exactlly the same...? because it sure seems like it.

I was told she would never be with me - and would never leave this guy - yet it happend - now somehow this automaticlly mean she will 100% cheat - I have tested her a billion and one times because of my trust issues and insecurty - yet she passed every one - i never hid the trust issues and insecurity from her - and she still stuck with me - and does to this day.

She is still the same with me as always - she just went through a string of bad guys - which she didnt like - I have been the first one to treat her right - I still see as much love in her eyes for me as always - still as turned on by me as always etc.

What am i missing here?

This all happend because she was not happy with him - and rightly so...
 

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Dear bobbates,

Did your girl pack her stuff, drive across country and move in with you?

If not I can guarantee she is still seeing the other guy. She is lying with you so you will shut up with all the oressuring her to leave him.
 

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Dear papawapa,

How can you garrentee that? please show me the proof...

Oh yeah thats right - you have none.

Again - every woman is the same - got it.

Some of us are not so cynical and narrrow minded and have the guts to take a risk like this
 
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