"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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What can you tell me about paid vs free dating sites?

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Given my location, online dating is a must if I want to have any sort of normal dating life. But the free sites like OkCupid and POF have a lot of women who aren't serious about meeting up. They are either finnicky, flaky, and just dont respond.

So now Im wondering if paid sites are a good alternative. Ive tried to avoid having to pay a service to meet women...as I used to think it was really lame. But I figure that the women will be more serious about dating if they are paying to meet someone.

I also wonder if most of the women are looking to settle down since they are paying for the service. Ive heard Match and Eharmony do pull in people looking for that. And tbh, Im not at that point in my life yet.

Thoughts?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Usually if they pay it means they have a commitment to ''find someone''.... why waste money right ?

Use the paid and free online.... more options..... more dates = more chance for getting laid and meeting people who will extend your network

Tinder might be a good option to add, including POF, OKcupid and the rest
 

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Given my location, online dating is a must if I want to have any sort of normal dating life. But the free sites like OkCupid and POF have a lot of women who aren't serious about meeting up. They are either finnicky, flaky, and just dont respond.

So now Im wondering if paid sites are a good alternative. Ive tried to avoid having to pay a service to meet women...as I used to think it was really lame. But I figure that the women will be more serious about dating if they are paying to meet someone.

I also wonder if most of the women are looking to settle down since they are paying for the service. Ive heard Match and Eharmony do pull in people looking for that. And tbh, Im not at that point in my life yet.

Thoughts?
Question- why you posting on Reddit about this? You want serious Redpill dating advice that isn't a community you need advice from.

https://dg.reddit.com/r/relationshi...m_here_looking_to_try_out_a_paid_dating_site/
 

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It doesn't hurt to get a diversity of opinions. That's why I posted on reddit. Plus there are a lot more readers on that particular subreddit
 

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Both are a huge waste of time. That includes Tinder as well. Go traditional route, if you are seriously looking for relationship material.

Hit the gym, get in shape, dress well, smell well, and meet girls in real life. For example, coffee shops, book stores, public libraries, shopping malls, concerts, or it could be anywhere.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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It doesn't hurt to get a diversity of opinions. That's why I posted on reddit. Plus there are a lot more readers on that particular subreddit
Bluepill and women readers. Not the advice you want. Try Seduction Subreddit.
 

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In answer to your question:

It depends on what you are looking for. I've tried both (because I was annoyed with flakes).

Paid you will get easier dates and less flakes. But the pool is far smaller and usually lower (typically 5-6s with the odd 7 rather than 5-8s)
 

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In answer to your question:

It depends on what you are looking for. I've tried both (because I was annoyed with flakes).

Paid you will get easier dates and less flakes. But the pool is far smaller and usually lower (typically 5-6s with the odd 7 rather than 5-8s)
At least in my area, the pool is not that much smaller than OKC, based on the search Im doing (mid to late 20s women with no kids). However the pool does seem to be more noticeably smaller than POF.

And yeah, I feel like there arent as many women who have the body type Im looking for on Match (slim or athletic and toned) Though I will say there appears to be a nice portion of educated women with decent jobs. It gets tiring wading through the low quality women on POF who have little going for them.

Which paid site did you use specifically?
 

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I used eharmony and a London UK called Lovestruck

Why not try 'once' or bumble for something different?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I have used OKC...huge waste of time. I found Eharmony to be the best site for the money. Match is filled with scammers and fake profiles at this point.
 
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