You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
That all they can offer is sex?wayword said:Oh, cut the BS people...generally speaking for Americanized women - the OP & Luke Skywalker are right.
yet nobody says what girls can offer bessides sexAshley Chuckles said:Come on man... be real about this... there are lots of things that chicks can offer
You're misunderstanding some of the DJ concepts really... it's not about being a loner, it's about being independent and not NEEDING a chick... you can enjoy yourself without a chick, but being with a cool chick is great too and not only because of the pvssy...
Fuk'n rightmexican_player2 said:my girl bought an x box with 30 games, so whenever i go with her i play ...so besides sex she offers me her x box AND she makes dinner for me
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
My point exactly! They offer a LOT and yet nobody can DEFINE what those things are! They offer flirting which leads to sex. They offer sexual experience to men. Thats the ONLY thing they can offer to men!mexican_player2 said:yet nobody says what girls can offer bessides sex
if he ask a question, answer it instead of attacking him and not answering
Hey man...you could always marry a guy and have a girl as a mistress. Men only understand men, right?Babnik said:My point exactly! They offer a LOT and yet nobody can DEFINE what those things are! They offer flirting which leads to sex. They offer sexual experience to men. Thats the ONLY thing they can offer to men!
If goal in life = women then you are a complete AFC and your advice is worthless.pornstar88 said:what girls offer besides sex. Comfort,love,friendship,birth,fullfillment in life (every guys goal in life is women), cooks food,laughter,women are the sunshine in the family(all the good things in a family are from women trust me),motherhood(your moms a woman and your woman is gonna be a mom someday),optimism(alot of women can shed a good light on any situation your dealing with), unconditional love(if your lucky), religion(they are good to talk to about this), politics(just cuz she doesnt agree with you dont make her obsolete),cuddiling,good feeling inside(when you have a woman you have this), smooching (self explanatory), fun( you can have fun with a woman), learning( you can learn from women) ect...
You just gotta be opened minded
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Freddy1 said:It depends on the women. I agree that most have shallow goals in life although I have encounter some exceptional women in my life. Some of the women had some real talent.
-Like one I met in the summer who was a university student major in classical music and could really play classical piano compositions.
-Ive have met a theatre performance dancer.
-Ive also met a beautiful trapeze performer
-Ive have met some highly educated women as well (a psychologist, a teacher, )
-Ive met a artist who really realy painted well
-last week I met a girl who was a professional athlete and also worked as a model for some major photographers.
Its good to find women who actually have some real goals in life and mentally healthy.
Dont forget there are some very smart women out there too. There are some very educated women comming out of universities etc. who could hold an intellectual debate with a guy. Its good to find a women who you could have a discussion about on the same level.Babnik said:But how can those things be used by MEN? I am not saying women have nothing to offer the world! I am saying that to MEN they have nothing to offer but sexual experience!
Well, OK...but like thats what any other man can offer. I am saying that woman as a being, as something different from man can ONLY offer sex.Freddy1 said:Dont forget there are some very smart women out there too. There are some very educated women comming out of universities etc. who could hold an intellectual debate with a guy. Its good to find a women who you could have a discussion about on the same level.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
(I'm not sure I interpret your statement correctly or not???? So bear with me.)Babnik said:Well, OK...but like thats what any other man can offer. I am saying that woman as a being, as something different from man can ONLY offer sex.
Sexual experience...Freddy1 said:(I'm not sure I interpret your statement correctly or not???? So bear with me.)
I would say the ability to give birth to a child. I suppose if we want kids one day.
I was speaking from a scientific standpoint, males of all sprecies main goal in life is mating with mutiple women. SO dont try that afc crap with me. And dont act like getting women isnt one of your goals, cuz for you to find this site you had to search using a phrase like "how to get girls" and if you were refered by someone to this site you had to ask them something like "how do i get girls to like me" and the whole reason this site is made is for answering those questions for chumps like you whos whole goal in life is to know "how to get girls". SON!!!Babnik said:If goal in life = women then you are a complete AFC and your advice is worthless.
Babnik said:Well, OK...but like thats what any other man can offer. I am saying that woman as a being, as something different from man can ONLY offer sex.
Babnik said:Thats an awful thing, man. You need to KNOW how to do those things, but primarily my mom does those kind of things.
It also has NOTHING to do with being a man. Hell, they teach you this kind of discipline in the ARMY!!!
But support is not given by women. Its given by men to women. Which leaves love and thus sex as the only use for them.
All you who called me stupid - back up your statement!
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.