"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
What are your turn off? And how to overcome it?
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
wifehunter
Master Don Juan
nasty fatties = friendzone
I can not stand shallow people. Bore me to tears and their priorities are always so far from what I value in life. Feminist should be a no-brainer. Low intelligence because I get bored easily in conversations if people can't keep up or aren't interested with interesting topics.
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
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In some cases the women I ignore refuse to respect my decision to not involve myself with them, which I have every right to do regardless of reason. They do what turns me off more than anything in the world, attempt to control and manipulate. I overcome it using any legal way I know of to make them stay the fvck away from me.
Some turn offs I can just walk away from, problem solved. When that doesn't work they get what's coming for them.
I really don't understand why you'd want to "overcome" something that turns you off. If you don't like something then why would you want to force yourself to like it? It wouldn't be true to oneself.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
gravityeyelids
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Also: obsession with "shallow" things like social media, twitter, celebrities, reality TV, her phone, gossip, etc. This traits are a one way ticket to the "i will never date you" zone for me. A girl whom i date should also be a good friend that i can have interesting and stimulating conversations and share art and music and movies with.
personal hygiene/ sense of style. I make an effort to be well groomed and take care of my body and mind. She needs to shower regularly and be able to dress better than i do. In my experience girls who often wear sweatpants or don't wear makeup out or dont care about fashion... it only gets worse the longer you know them. Pretty soon you're 5 months into dating and she's lounging around in sweatpants and not showering before sex and my attraction is quickly wearing down.