"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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what are your chances of a ONS when you go out at night?

garruk

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im just trying to gain a little realistic perspective...

when you go out to the bars or clubs at night and you're out to spit game, what are your chances (personal opinion) of:

having a conversation with a girl?
getting a (real) phone number?
kissing a girl?
screwing a girl?

for me, i would probably say 100%, 60%, 30%, 1%

just wanted some perspective on this.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Brighty

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YT827 said:
I'm so good, my percentages are reversed.

So you have a 0% chance having a conversation with a girl? 40% getting her number, 70% of kissing, and 99% chance of screwing? Do you just lock eyes with a girl and motion to the bathroom and grunt? Pro. :crackup:


If you're talking in terms of just girls you don't know and not bootycalls, at a typical freshman party for me it'd be:

100% chance of conversation
80% chance of getting her number
60% chance of kissing
20-30% chance of screwing

I'm still working on refining my ONS-game (in the sense that I can generate enough attraction and say the right things in the course of an hour or so to get a stranger to come back with me), or maybe I'm just talking to the wrong kind of girls. Most of the time I can't really pull it off on the spot and I find building some rapport throughout the week is a better investment, but typically the rhythm I have going is:

A. Meet a girl at a party over the weekend
B. Chat her up for a while, get her number, maybe dance a bit/make out. Don't really push it much that night unless she's giving me obvious signals or I'm really vibing with her.
C. Text her a few days later and grab lunch with her during the week, fluff talk for the rest of the week.
D. The following weekend we usually go out to a party together and usually ends in some form of sex

I feel like girls are a lot more receptive to this because they don't typically want to be a one night stand (and when they have that last minute resistance they just use the excuse that this isn't a one night stand because we went "out" together and have been "talking") but then again that's just the college perspective I have with the kind of girls I go after and I doubt its similar to bar/club game.
 

The Spider

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practically zero. most people dont look good enough and virtually zero women have one night stands.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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rakishness

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LOL. I say it depends where you go. High priced clubs? Probably close to zero. Only ones really going home are on vacation. Dive bars? Probably like 2 to 3 girls that night are going home with somebody.
 
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