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And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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what are your chances of a ONS when you go out at night?

garruk

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im just trying to gain a little realistic perspective...

when you go out to the bars or clubs at night and you're out to spit game, what are your chances (personal opinion) of:

having a conversation with a girl?
getting a (real) phone number?
kissing a girl?
screwing a girl?

for me, i would probably say 100%, 60%, 30%, 1%

just wanted some perspective on this.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Brighty

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YT827 said:
I'm so good, my percentages are reversed.

So you have a 0% chance having a conversation with a girl? 40% getting her number, 70% of kissing, and 99% chance of screwing? Do you just lock eyes with a girl and motion to the bathroom and grunt? Pro. :crackup:


If you're talking in terms of just girls you don't know and not bootycalls, at a typical freshman party for me it'd be:

100% chance of conversation
80% chance of getting her number
60% chance of kissing
20-30% chance of screwing

I'm still working on refining my ONS-game (in the sense that I can generate enough attraction and say the right things in the course of an hour or so to get a stranger to come back with me), or maybe I'm just talking to the wrong kind of girls. Most of the time I can't really pull it off on the spot and I find building some rapport throughout the week is a better investment, but typically the rhythm I have going is:

A. Meet a girl at a party over the weekend
B. Chat her up for a while, get her number, maybe dance a bit/make out. Don't really push it much that night unless she's giving me obvious signals or I'm really vibing with her.
C. Text her a few days later and grab lunch with her during the week, fluff talk for the rest of the week.
D. The following weekend we usually go out to a party together and usually ends in some form of sex

I feel like girls are a lot more receptive to this because they don't typically want to be a one night stand (and when they have that last minute resistance they just use the excuse that this isn't a one night stand because we went "out" together and have been "talking") but then again that's just the college perspective I have with the kind of girls I go after and I doubt its similar to bar/club game.
 

The Spider

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practically zero. most people dont look good enough and virtually zero women have one night stands.
 

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rakishness

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LOL. I say it depends where you go. High priced clubs? Probably close to zero. Only ones really going home are on vacation. Dive bars? Probably like 2 to 3 girls that night are going home with somebody.
 
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