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It's certainly true many single women over 35 are broken in many ways. I'm curious what everyone's thoughts and experience have been.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
I absolutely agree. There's an old adage that women want someone that is taken and if you're still single by 35 there might be something wrongI thought men our age were in their prime and most women recognized that. At least I feel that way...
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Most of the married men in my social realm are childless married men. They don't have the nuclear family excuse yet, though some do. However, a lot of these married men know each other and are carbon copies of each other with the single family house in the suburbs and the dog(s).I do think there is a lot of truth to what @SW15 states, although I think part of that is just by function that married couples become busy with their families and grow apart from other friends regardless of the friends being single or married themselves.
How are you having more positive interactions with married women despite being seen in a negatively light by married women?You will be seen in a negative light by married women and to a lesser extent married men (if they are blue pilled).
In fact, I have found that when I am completely single I tend to have more positive interactions with all females, married or single, than when I am in a LTR.
You're a hunter when single, being in an LTR tends to makes you complacent. It was in my case, the GF didn't help motivate so I started to be unhappy and eventually had to end it.In fact, I have found that when I am completely single I tend to have more positive interactions with all females, married or single, than when I am in a LTR.
Seems contradictory I know, but I do think married women will see you negatively. At the same time, when I see them outside of a setting where their husbands are present will be much more open towards me and flirtatious than when I have also been in an LTR. As for why they are better, I think on some subconscious level they are responding to the fact that I am attractive and single.Most of the married men in my social realm are childless married men. They don't have the nuclear family excuse yet, though some do. However, a lot of these married men know each other and are carbon copies of each other with the single family house in the suburbs and the dog(s).
How are you having more positive interactions with married women despite being seen in a negatively light by married women?
I've never been close to my male friends' wives/long term girlfriends. I don't think they think too highly of me but I don't think most of them feel too negatively about me.
Why do you think your female interactions are better when single vs. when you are in an LTR?
I have picked up on the same vibe you mention from blue pilled married men.
Why do you care?It's certainly true many single women over 35 are broken in many ways. I'm curious what everyone's thoughts and experience have been.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Correct, can confirm all true. People distance themselves from single males 33+. Get used to being alone and at a certain age you look too old for clubs.I am a single male 35+. I'll tell you some things that happen when you are a 35+ single male.
Somewhere between ages 26-34, there are a flurry of weddings in your social circle. The male friends you made in your 20s or even earlier in life will become more distant. You'll be on the fringes of social circles because most social circles of people 30+ are dominated by couples. General social gatherings are established couples hanging out with each other. The established couples don't want you around and you don't want to be around them either. You will see your married man/cohabiting LTR male friends less frequently and only if you have some activity hobby in common (tennis, fishing, hunting, golf, etc).
Family gatherings are a bit uncomfortable as your similarly aged siblings and cousins will often be around with their kids and/or significant others.
This was part of the motivation for why I became a more daygame oriented guy around age 30. Daygame is more sustainable as you age.Correct, can confirm all true. People distance themselves from single males 33+. Get used to being alone and at a certain age you look too old for clubs.
Probably a good thing I look 10 years younger and live in a college town. There's always people to bull**** around with at the bar. I'm probably a bad influence though.I am a single male 35+. I'll tell you some things that happen when you are a 35+ single male.
Somewhere between ages 26-34, there are a flurry of weddings in your social circle. The male friends you made in your 20s or even earlier in life will become more distant. You'll be on the fringes of social circles because most social circles of people 30+ are dominated by couples. General social gatherings are established couples hanging out with each other. The established couples don't want you around and you don't want to be around them either. You will see your married man/cohabiting LTR male friends less frequently and only if you have some activity hobby in common (tennis, fishing, hunting, golf, etc).
Family gatherings are a bit uncomfortable as your similarly aged siblings and cousins will often be around with their kids and/or significant others.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Men arround 35 are similar to women arround 18 to 23... not all women arround 18 to 23 are hot, not all men arround 35 are hot. There will be variations... but in general these are the ages we a lot of people of the opposite sex find attractive.I thought men our age were in their prime and most women recognized that. At least I feel that way...
But I could be wrong?
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So 70 is when men become attractive....... Then at 70 he met a girlfriend and quit thinking for himself.
Interesting to think about, right?So 70 is when men become attractive![]()
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.