"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
What are the basics needed to create lust for women?
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
jhonny9546
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Beauty it's in the eye of the beholder, so anything you would do will impact some women, while will push away some others. (polarization)
Put this in your mind.. I know it's hard, but You'll be chasing women that don't see you as a high value man. (hot and cold behaviour, weak ioi's)
It's a hard thing to understand as a male, since you could have feelings or just like that woman. (oneitis)
You should not pursue any woman if She isn't pursuing or just be attracted to You like You were the last man on this earth. (measure that with her admiration/respect towards you), and if you could catch her before she get AW by someone else, it's pretty amazing, but if you're like me, and you started to wake up later, you will have to deal with women who actually were and still attached to someone else emotionally. I'm in the hard route, but that doesn't mean I work for women, I actually raise my value as a man in my eyes!
And so:
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You cannot negotiate desire, but you can be the best man out there.
The best man you could become.
You could read the Bible to get some insights, but then, You have an entire life to discover which are your strengths and weaknesses.
There are many other points to consider, but go in small steps
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there’s wanting to and then actually doing it. for the wanting to, your question, it’s pretty much looks+body language. the good looking guys who have mass of girls lusting after them, know how to walk, position themselves, and mastered facial expressions to know how to ramp up that sexual desire. actually doing it depends on far more variables: her availability, timing, being at the right place at the right time and having some luck in ur favor. finally having enough game not to screw it all up.
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This is likely the truth, if you are looking for something long term. It's kind of a tricky balancing act, since men are expected to initiate. Some guys totally leave it to women to initiate, but that's a luxury most guys don't have, because they might have to wait 10 years in between girls showing some interest in them lol.
By the way, I was in Wal-Mart yesterday, and there was an opening at the checkout where some people go left and some go right. The girl ahead of me turned to the left, stopped her cart dead, locked eyes with me, and said "Hello". I was going right so I smiled at her, said "Hi", and went on my way. I had seen her earlier in the aisles, I remember. Later, it occurred to me "That girl was flirting with me". This just shows how oblivious I can be. I didn't care though, I have a girlfriend and I'm not looking to get into the game. The other thing that occurred to me is "She probably was looking for some guy to pay her rent" lol.
jhonny9546
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That is our man quality ahahha.
"Later" .. yes mate.. I do understand that..
I also miss so many hints
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
I'm well-known on here for having bad luck with the ladies. Yet I got laid for free this weekend (I had to fly across the country to make it happen, yet the sex itself was free)
As for how I seduced her: By being my 100% genuine self. Before we even met in real life, she was already extremely lustful for me (and unlike the general pattern I've had in the past, she grew more intrigued the more she got to know me)
I'm at the airport right now on the way to fly home. She's already stoked for our next visit in September
So I'd say being your genuine self is the best way to create genuine lust. If you put on an act (where you pretend to be somebody you're not), you might get a 1 night stand, yet there won't be genuine lust on her part. Any "lust" she feels would be based on a lie (and there's no way you can keep the lie up forever)
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You are known for not being socially calibrated and having colourful discussions on here that include "prostitutes" from time to time but not for having bad luck with the ladies. Did she pay for the trip?
She didn't pay for the whole trip's cost (nor would I expect or even want her to), yet she at least covered about 25% of the cost of the hotel suite we stayed in (and we used her car for transportation, she treated me to dinner, etc)
Plus, the flight was free anyway (I used points)
We're a couple. We're going to do the long-distance thing for a while, yet her ultimate plan is to move by me
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We are all happy for you. You told her you used points?
Now is your time to speak-up since you have more credibility here and you can set the record straight.
Are you going to "break-up" with the pro things now that you have a real woman or are you maintaining that to stay active while your gf is away on long-distance? What was your operating concept with them....were they used as a tool to help you out until you got the real thing or is there still a craving/desire for that lifestyle? Did that hobby help you with this woman (ie learned any techniques that helped you in bed, took the edge off since you are used to already dealing with women, etc...)?
In other words, would you recommend that as a self-improvement tool where that helped you land this gf?