SamTheHobit
Master Don Juan
Sometimes I think the bad advice outweighs the good advice? Or am I just ignorant?
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Dude, stop being such a wuss beta who cares what other dudes think. If you aren't man enough to grab your pair and take responsibility for your own actions, then you deserve the nothing you're gonna get.SamTheHobit said:Sometimes I think the bad advice outweighs the good advice? Or am I just ignorant?
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
So much of the advice here is bred from insecurity.. "She's talking to another guy".. Next, she's losing interest, if she was really that into you she wouldn't risk talking to other guys..The Gambler said:relationship sabotage
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Scars said:The fact that a lot of men here act like woman are a fvcking a math equation.
I think it's okay to break the rules sometimes, none of us are psychic. Your outcome could be totally different than somebody else. I truly believe it's far better to learn from experience. You can take someones advice, that's great. But the experience is what truly develops who you are.
I guess my biggest quarrel with "game" right now is that too many people lose sight of who they are. Don't take it to seriously, and use the advice given as a helping guide. Not an end-all-be-all.
-Scars
HalfAddict said:Anything that relies on the term alpha is bull**** advice.
Funny I was just think to myself this morning that I'm not really comfortable spinning plates. After my experience last week approaching, getting numbers, dating, I feel a lot more comfortable finding a nice girl to be my girlfriend and only having her until/if the relationship ends. When it does end, you can spin plates until you find another one that is good gf material. But to constantly be spinning plates I find it unnatural... however I'm sure there is a thread out there about overcoming this thought.PairPlusRoyalFlush said:Spin plates, it works but it also happened to be a time -honored hpd/npd/bpd strategy to avoid emotional attachment...i.e. Psychopathic behavior.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
fukoutdawhey said:Awesome Post BG
Developing empathy and learning how to socially vibe are the very first things a newbie should address.
Forget about escalation, frame control, and physicality.
If you're so trapped inside your head that you can't discern the emotions of others, or hold a conversation, you need to address those issues first.
Social IQ: How People Can Tell If You're "Normal"
Being able to vibe and express empathy are the qualities that sub-communicate to others that you're "Normal". These are the absolute basics of social intelligence.
Fun Little Quiz: How To Figure Out If You're "Normal" Or NOT
The next time you approach a girl, go into your body and feel the emotions inside.
If you feel relaxed and fulfilled in the presence of others, you're normal.
If you feel an outflow of positive energy when you speak, you're normal.
If you don't give a **** whether you're more alpha or dominant in the interaction, you're normal.
If you can look somebody in the eye and genuinely listen to them without feeling the urge to interrupt, you're normal.
If you enjoy chatting with people in general, whether that be the hot chick, or the old grandma, you're normal.
If you feel defensive when talking to others, you're ****ing weird.
If you constantly interrupt people because you're trapped inside your head, you're ****ing weird.
If you can't listen to somebody because you're thinking of the next thing to say, you're ****ing weird.
If you always feel the need to correct somebody, or make your point, you're ****ing weird.
If you find yourself judging, or rationalizing why you're cooler than somebody, you're ****ing weird.
If socializing in general doesn't pump your state, you're ****ing weird.
What Being "Normal" Really Means
What makes you "Normal" has nothing to do with fitting in, or allowing the environment to dictate your behavior.
Being "Normal" means that you have the empathy necessary to recognize how others are feeling, and the ability to project and share positive emotions.
Before you can be charismatic and dominant, you need to learn how to be "Normal".
YupMM92 said:I only skim through here, taking note mainly of those that I already know it would be worth reading what they put. Pimpsicle(?) for example. As soon as you work out who are the trolls, who is clueless and who knows what they're talking about the vast majority of what you read on here will be spot on
I was never good at "spinning plates" either, it tended to feel like more work than it was worth. I had better results when I picked a girl who appeared to have the most interest and focused on her. That was my goal anyway, a lot of guys here forget that not everyone comes here wanting to just bed as many women as possible (that's what PUA forums are for IMO). I believe that for every guy here asking how to avoid relationships and trying to build a harem of FWBs there's a guy who's wondering how to get a relationship going with just one woman. Some prefer quantity, others quality.Droz88 said:Funny I was just think to myself this morning that I'm not really comfortable spinning plates. After my experience last week approaching, getting numbers, dating, I feel a lot more comfortable finding a nice girl to be my girlfriend and only having her until/if the relationship ends. When it does end, you can spin plates until you find another one that is good gf material. But to constantly be spinning plates I find it unnatural... however I'm sure there is a thread out there about overcoming this thought.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.