Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
While Christianity can't be boiled down to a set of rules, you are right. OP needs to call her out hard for her fake religion too.backbreaker said:That is one thing I never understood about Christan
I was an atheist for years, but it wasn't because of lack of knowledge of the bible. I find it comical all the armchair Christans you see in church who don't know jack about the bible and god's word, pick and chose what they do and don't want to practice when it's convenient for them to do so, cherry picking out the bible.
I oblivious have a son out of wedlock, i'm not pro or anti sex before marriage per say, to each his own, but the difference I don't try to justify it with any bull**** like, it doesn't say it in the bible or, those laws are outdated, or something that will attempt to make me sleep at night. When i have premarital sex I know exactly what i am doing.
IF you a Christan god fearing person, as much as this forum doesn't want to hear it, you don't need to have sex before marriage. The bible clearly states, first Corinthians , versus 1 through 40ish that sex is to be saved for marriage. Many other places too but that's the main place in the bible that it's discussed. Clear as day.
So back to the OP... who hasn't had a laspe in judgement? I would never take a woman that says she wants to wait until she is married as losing intrest or being cynical. However, I would see if mjy values matched hers and if i was not willing to do that, wish her the best and move on.
God (if you are a Christian) does not give a damn about what is and is not practical, what is and is not hard, that has nothing to do with the word.
I bumped this, because this is something that is not really discussed, it's the elephant in the room. If you are a christian, this is something you really need to address. If you aren't you need to not waste a woman of deep religious faiths time or try to guilt her into doing something that she might regret. IF a woman is guilting you by using god as a reason to not have sex, i assure you she has bigger issues, than lack of interest.
It's not as clear as you stated... I've read it as well and it doesn't say: Sex should be saved for married. So it's a interpretation made by the people following Christianity, but that doesn't mean that it's the true meaning.juan95 said:IF you a Christan god fearing person, as much as this forum doesn't want to hear it, you don't need to have sex before marriage. The bible clearly states, first Corinthians , versus 1 through 40ish that sex is to be saved for marriage. Many other places too but that's the main place in the bible that it's discussed. Clear as day.
Backbreaker, I am duly impressed. I thought I was going to have to make the points you made but you covered it all masterfully.backbreaker said:IF you a Christan god fearing person, as much as this forum doesn't want to hear it, you don't need to have sex before marriage. The bible clearly states, first Corinthians , versus 1 through 40ish that sex is to be saved for marriage. Many other places too but that's the main place in the bible that it's discussed. Clear as day.
So back to the OP... who hasn't had a laspe in judgement? I would never take a woman that says she wants to wait until she is married as losing intrest or being cynical. However, I would see if mjy values matched hers and if i was not willing to do that, wish her the best and move on.
God (if you are a Christian) does not give a damn about what is and is not practical, what is and is not hard, that has nothing to do with the word.
I bumped this, because this is something that is not really discussed, it's the elephant in the room. If you are a christian, this is something you really need to address. If you aren't you need to not waste a woman of deep religious faiths time or try to guilt her into doing something that she might regret. IF a woman is guilting you by using god as a reason to not have sex, i assure you she has bigger issues, than lack of interest.
1 Corinthians 7:2 "But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband."badboyjmm said:It's not as clear as you stated... I've read it as well and it doesn't say: Sex should be saved for married. So it's a interpretation made by the people following Christianity, but that doesn't mean that it's the true meaning.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
You should have left at this point.she told me God would be angry if we did IT
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_uD4WSsIpwuM/SgilZkl3a4I/AAAAAAAABJs/X1c-4WH_RxQ/s400/A_Tip_of_the_Hat_by_jollyjack.jpgAtom Smasher said:Backbreaker, I am duly impressed. I thought I was going to have to make the points you made but you covered it all masterfully.
OP, she is struggling with her sexual desires vs. her faith. Let her go. It would only be destructive to both of you to try to manipulate her into sex.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.