"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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'We are displeased by your appearance'

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Just thinking about this this morning.

Let's just take a social/public environment and a girl/clique doesn't find you attractive. In fact let's just take out the sexual attraction element.
A great number of girls/women seem to be so good at dishing out abusive comments at guys they don't find attractive (especially in groups). They do this in the teens, and it could continue to even their 40s. And I'm not even talking about romantic/sexual interest (or lack of it), I'm talking about just a basic social/fundamental communication level, or moreover, any situation in life that doesn't call for looks to be a factor.

Then in a dating context, they say they don't like it when guys have 'hearts on their sleeves' etc at expressing insecurity, meekness etc.

Maybe its the guy in me not being able to multitask, but you can't have both.
Do they have some sick sense of humour or what?
I hate this moral deterioration between the genders. I'm trying desperately hard to keep this from being a whine thread, and I don't want to be that 'heart on his sleeve' guy. Just saying. Thoughts?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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You are trying to understand women with LOGIC.

Logicallefty's rule #1 with WOMEN: take the logic element out of the equation

Does it make more sense now?

When women get in packs together (two or more of them) they bash other womens' looks, and mens', because they

1) Are insecure with themselves and putting others down helps their own self esteem. They may be laughing with each other but it's not in the same sense you or I would laugh at a funny movie or one of our buddies doing something funny. This is a very serious laugh.

2) They are seeking validation with the other women in the pack . "Hey look what *I* noticed this man/woman looks like this. Ain't I smart for noticing that. Ain't I a cool girl, girrrl.

So in summary

1) don't try to figure out women with logic and

2)umm, yeah, same thing, don't try to figure out women with logic.

There is no humor in it. There is no logic in it.
 

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I'd say that this is because when you aren't attractive to a woman, you are not valuable to her, and when you aren't valuable to her, she will not respect you, because you are weak to her. And for the most part, women despise weak men; most do not respect weak men. They do not respect weak men because these weak men, from their perspective, do not add any value to their lives. In other words, they cannot use weak men for their advantage.

Strong, or "high-value," men, on the other hand, can be used by women. And because these men can be used by a woman for her own good, she respects/admires these men. This, for me, is reality.
 

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If you ever get in that situation again and they insult you just stand there and laugh in their face
 

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logicallefty said:
You are trying to understand women with LOGIC.

Logicallefty's rule #1 with WOMEN: take the logic element out of the equation
C'mon, guys have been saying that for millennia and it's completely unhelpful.

First, define "logic." Are you suggesting that men think like computers? Ha.

I know plenty of men who are more "emotional" then women.

Secondly, saying that women aren't logical doesn't help you understand how to get what you want from them.

A better way to analyze it is: Women behave with the logic of a creature who has few reproductive opportunities.

Men could sire a new child every day, theoretically. Women could birth maybe a dozen children in a lifetime at most.

Understand that and you understand a great, great deal. If you could ejaculate, say, once a year, how would that change your behavior?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Never confuse what women SAY they want/like with what they ACTUALLY want/like.
 

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logicallefty said:
When women get in packs together (two or more of them) they bash other womens' looks, and mens'
Yes, I have observed that they knock/gossip about other women's looks too, and sometimes therefore the looks of couples, whether they are fairytale 'perfect' or 'physically mismatched'. Some don't like the idea that someone else could find a certain man attractive just because THEY don't.

Having preferences is one thing, but to treat the rest like shvt or talk down to them is just wrong.
 

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Zarky said:
C'mon, guys have been saying that for millennia and it's completely unhelpful.

First, define "logic." Are you suggesting that men think like computers? Ha.

I know plenty of men who are more "emotional" then women.

Secondly, saying that women aren't logical doesn't help you understand how to get what you want from them.

A better way to analyze it is: Women behave with the logic of a creature who has few reproductive opportunities.

Men could sire a new child every day, theoretically. Women could birth maybe a dozen children in a lifetime at most.

Understand that and you understand a great, great deal. If you could ejaculate, say, once a year, how would that change your behavior?
Thank you. It's always good to have a woman's perspective on things.
 

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logicallefty said:
Thank you. It's always good to have a woman's perspective on things.

lol I wonder why zarky still tries sometimes, not fooling anyone.

I wonder if anyone would even say taht to me, never happened and in any serious note I would laugh,then say no one asked what her thinks, and serious a low class girl like her bring nothing to anyone so that is why she need to say something to someone like that so look important to the other low class girls she hang out with, then turn back to my drink and keep talking with more interesting people i'm with


also I think you guys give too much credit to vvhore like this, stop caring for what woman think
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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