"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Way too many AFC's?

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I was gamein' this girl who showed some interest. I had her on the hook and she was startin to chase. Then BOOM!!! nothin... So Im thinkin she must have gone to this one club in town and met someone. So Sun night I get home from hangin with one of my dependable booty call girls(HB6-HB7) and I see she posted somthin on Facebook.

She wrote "Had a great V-day tonight at #*%#*%". Then under that the guy had responded with "I had a wonderful time tonight too with an amazing, beautiful woman."

Okay so this dude is obviously an AFC who is gonna get burnt but damn these AFC's get in the way sometimes. Now this chick doesn't need to chase anyone cause she's already got a chump who's willing to chase her and stroke her ego. Effin AFC's!!!
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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are you sure about that? sounds like you've merely failed to generate enough interest in her. afc's, generally speaking, dont get in the way. they push the girl further into the arms of the resident dj. although i can see an extenuating circumstance on valentine's, he shouldnt be a long term issue.
 

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Plenty more girls out there. No worries.

Although I can't really give u any advice about where u went wrong because u didn't really tell us anything (other than she was interested and now she's not anymore).

And as far as the other guy goes, who cares? Don't worry about it. Hot girls have tons of guys around them. Personally, I try not to think about it cuz it fvcks up my game....If you like her, keep going after it, just stop checking her facebook. :p

JK
 

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Yes. That was super AFC of him to admit that he had a good time with a woman who He found both beautiful and amazing:crazy:
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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teacha

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yea probably that 'afc' is busy drilling that bitch while you busy spending all your time trying to make her chase you lol.... you had her on hook lol.

btw stop calling people you dont even know, afc.
 

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Let's see now, he gets the girl after you fail and HE'S the AFC? Hmm, something doesn't seem right here.

I guess you're assuming the guy is an AFC because he said something nice about the girl on her facebook page. Dude, some guys are real smooth with this sh!t, they play the romance game. I've seen guys win the girl with this kind of thing plenty of times. Now I know on this forum you usually get advice more along the lines of "sit back and wait to be worshipped", but there's more than one way to skin a cat.

This whole DJ/AFC thing is completely overblown. People are people. Very few guys are 100% AFC (or 100% DJ for that matter). People who live in the real world (meaning outside of the pickup community) have a mix of traits, and a lot of them are not as ignorant about women as you might think.
 

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zekko said:
Let's see now, he gets the girl after you fail and HE'S the AFC? Hmm, something doesn't seem right here.

I guess you're assuming the guy is an AFC because he said something nice about the girl on her facebook page. Dude, some guys are real smooth with this sh!t, they play the romance game. I've seen guys win the girl with this kind of thing plenty of times. Now I know on this forum you usually get advice more along the lines of "sit back and wait to be worshipped", but there's more than one way to skin a cat.

This whole DJ/AFC thing is completely overblown. People are people. Very few guys are 100% AFC (or 100% DJ for that matter). People who live in the real world (meaning outside of the pickup community) have a mix of traits, and a lot of them are not as ignorant about women as you might think.
Excellent post. A lot of people here think that there's only one way to do things and they couldn't be anymore wrong.
 

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True dat . . I remember some girl had her new boyfriend posting the most sickening AFC sh*t you can think of on her Myspace. I was brand new at all this so I figured "OMG she's gonna cheat on him soon/blow him out!" No, they're still together, and she usually would respond with similar gushy crap.

Maybe she's screwing around but honestly, doubt it.
 

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Forty0ztoFreedom said:
True dat . . I remember some girl had her new boyfriend posting the most sickening AFC sh*t you can think of on her Myspace. I was brand new at all this so I figured "OMG she's gonna cheat on him soon/blow him out!" No, they're still together, and she usually would respond with similar gushy crap.

Maybe she's screwing around but honestly, doubt it.
haha...I saw the same thing with one of my friends and his girl on facebook. He keeps saying "I love you" and calling her "bavee" (baby) and it makes my head spin. But, she does it back it to him as well. On a side note, she's tall and attractive, and he's short and funny, but confident.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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It's all right........ if u have a good time!
zekko said:
This whole DJ/AFC thing is completely overblown. People are people. Very few guys are 100% AFC (or 100% DJ for that matter). People who live in the real world (meaning outside of the pickup community) have a mix of traits, and a lot of them are not as ignorant about women as you might think.
This is exactly right. Most people are not AFC - the AFC that is often talked about on SS only ever appears in real life as the dorky kid in American Pie movies.
 
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