"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Way too many AFC's?

KG33

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I was gamein' this girl who showed some interest. I had her on the hook and she was startin to chase. Then BOOM!!! nothin... So Im thinkin she must have gone to this one club in town and met someone. So Sun night I get home from hangin with one of my dependable booty call girls(HB6-HB7) and I see she posted somthin on Facebook.

She wrote "Had a great V-day tonight at #*%#*%". Then under that the guy had responded with "I had a wonderful time tonight too with an amazing, beautiful woman."

Okay so this dude is obviously an AFC who is gonna get burnt but damn these AFC's get in the way sometimes. Now this chick doesn't need to chase anyone cause she's already got a chump who's willing to chase her and stroke her ego. Effin AFC's!!!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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(JJ)

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are you sure about that? sounds like you've merely failed to generate enough interest in her. afc's, generally speaking, dont get in the way. they push the girl further into the arms of the resident dj. although i can see an extenuating circumstance on valentine's, he shouldnt be a long term issue.
 

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Plenty more girls out there. No worries.

Although I can't really give u any advice about where u went wrong because u didn't really tell us anything (other than she was interested and now she's not anymore).

And as far as the other guy goes, who cares? Don't worry about it. Hot girls have tons of guys around them. Personally, I try not to think about it cuz it fvcks up my game....If you like her, keep going after it, just stop checking her facebook. :p

JK
 

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Yes. That was super AFC of him to admit that he had a good time with a woman who He found both beautiful and amazing:crazy:
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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teacha

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yea probably that 'afc' is busy drilling that bitch while you busy spending all your time trying to make her chase you lol.... you had her on hook lol.

btw stop calling people you dont even know, afc.
 

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Let's see now, he gets the girl after you fail and HE'S the AFC? Hmm, something doesn't seem right here.

I guess you're assuming the guy is an AFC because he said something nice about the girl on her facebook page. Dude, some guys are real smooth with this sh!t, they play the romance game. I've seen guys win the girl with this kind of thing plenty of times. Now I know on this forum you usually get advice more along the lines of "sit back and wait to be worshipped", but there's more than one way to skin a cat.

This whole DJ/AFC thing is completely overblown. People are people. Very few guys are 100% AFC (or 100% DJ for that matter). People who live in the real world (meaning outside of the pickup community) have a mix of traits, and a lot of them are not as ignorant about women as you might think.
 

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zekko said:
Let's see now, he gets the girl after you fail and HE'S the AFC? Hmm, something doesn't seem right here.

I guess you're assuming the guy is an AFC because he said something nice about the girl on her facebook page. Dude, some guys are real smooth with this sh!t, they play the romance game. I've seen guys win the girl with this kind of thing plenty of times. Now I know on this forum you usually get advice more along the lines of "sit back and wait to be worshipped", but there's more than one way to skin a cat.

This whole DJ/AFC thing is completely overblown. People are people. Very few guys are 100% AFC (or 100% DJ for that matter). People who live in the real world (meaning outside of the pickup community) have a mix of traits, and a lot of them are not as ignorant about women as you might think.
Excellent post. A lot of people here think that there's only one way to do things and they couldn't be anymore wrong.
 

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True dat . . I remember some girl had her new boyfriend posting the most sickening AFC sh*t you can think of on her Myspace. I was brand new at all this so I figured "OMG she's gonna cheat on him soon/blow him out!" No, they're still together, and she usually would respond with similar gushy crap.

Maybe she's screwing around but honestly, doubt it.
 

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Forty0ztoFreedom said:
True dat . . I remember some girl had her new boyfriend posting the most sickening AFC sh*t you can think of on her Myspace. I was brand new at all this so I figured "OMG she's gonna cheat on him soon/blow him out!" No, they're still together, and she usually would respond with similar gushy crap.

Maybe she's screwing around but honestly, doubt it.
haha...I saw the same thing with one of my friends and his girl on facebook. He keeps saying "I love you" and calling her "bavee" (baby) and it makes my head spin. But, she does it back it to him as well. On a side note, she's tall and attractive, and he's short and funny, but confident.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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It's all right........ if u have a good time!
zekko said:
This whole DJ/AFC thing is completely overblown. People are people. Very few guys are 100% AFC (or 100% DJ for that matter). People who live in the real world (meaning outside of the pickup community) have a mix of traits, and a lot of them are not as ignorant about women as you might think.
This is exactly right. Most people are not AFC - the AFC that is often talked about on SS only ever appears in real life as the dorky kid in American Pie movies.
 
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