"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Want some advice after initial contact with new girls

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I ended a 7 year LTR 2 years ago and have been dating since. I have dropped online dating as of a year ago. I had good success with online dating, better than 50% sexual activity with girls I met.

Since that time i've either recycled girls I met from online dating or tried to line up dates with girls I meet IRL. IRL i'm getting numbers, but i'm not having much success lining up dates. I'm losing girls in texting, or they are not responding to my first contact after getting their number.

I usually just go straight for a time and place to meet up.
ex) "Hi, it's (My Name) we met at xxx and I want to take you out (place and time)"

Sometimes I'll call.

Problem is i'm getting lost after this. Either they'll agree, and then flake or text me to death and then flake.

The last 8 numbers i've got have gone no where.

The last girl was a black girl and after setting up the date she hit me up with

"So you like chocolate, lol"

I'm white. I've slept with and dated a few black girls.

I said, "We're gonna find out".

"Woa, you've never talked to a black girl before?"

.... come on

"I'll see you (at date location)"

This bugged her out.


But basically, whereas online when I went right for the first date without talking to much, and it worked. With girls i'm meeting IRL i'm getting sucked into them wanting to know more about me and then they are disappearing.

After you line up the date, and they hit you up, do you just not respond until the date, deflect, **** pic?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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sazc

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most females online are thirsty as fvck. I'm finding that out as I do the online thing and men are shocked that I'm not salivating in my crotch when they say "Hey, you are beautiful, let's spend time together tomorrow".

My point is that you cant compare OLD to IRL when it comes to females. Again, most females online are (embarrassingly) thirsty.
 
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