"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Waitress responds to AFC brother after my C+F fails

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DonJuan11 said:
Your brother sounds sincere, you sound like you just want to get into her pants with your C+F routine. If you were a waiter and two girls were sitting there, one was busting your balls and teasing you, and the other was fairly quiet but complimenting you here and there, which girl would you fall for?
I'd be attracted to the girl who busted my balls. Its just a lot more fun because then I'd be challenged to make a comeback. I like being challenged.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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TheSplat said:
Prove it. Let's see a pic of you, your brother, and the two girls by the end of the week. Let's see if you can back up the talk.
I never claimed to be a DJ...so I dont know where you get this "talk". I'm a recovering AFC myself and theres no reason for me to be ashamed to admit it. I'm working on it.

I havent approach the HB9 because I have approach anxiety just like a lot of other people here do.
 

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If your good looking u should lay easy on the cnf.. girls will disqualify you because they won't think they have a chance with you.
 

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C+F isn't going to work on every girl. It doesn't work for every guy either.

An HB 5 is more than likely going to hate a guy who handles her like that. Also, if you're a really attractive guy, you shouldn't C+F or neg very hard. You're just going to come off as an arrogant a$$hole, and most girls will think you are out of their league and unapproachable.

I only C+F or neg the chics who have major princess attitudes, and it's pretty rare I find one of those who I think is worth putting up with. With the rest I just smile a lot and carry myself with confidence.
 

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robstar said:
If your good looking u should lay easy on the cnf.. girls will disqualify you because they won't think they have a chance with you.
You're probably right. I'm going to back off of it a bit from now on. I think that may be about half of my problem in the first place.

So is it correct to say C+F is mostly effective for average looking guys who are pursuing the HB8+?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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j81 said:
I'd be attracted to the girl who busted my balls. Its just a lot more fun because then I'd be challenged to make a comeback. I like being challenged.

Ugg, I wouldn't. I like girls who act nice.
 

jamescr73

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BTW she wouldnt be an HB5, because HB means hot babe. HB's are reserved for 8-10, whereas 5-7 are just a number, and 4 and below are UG4321 whatever, which means Ugly Girl. Just an FYI.
 

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Women are more perceptive than many guys give them credit for. Much of the PUA literature reads as if they are giving you secret knowledge that will allow you to get (control) women. Thing is that most women (over 21 at least) are very well aware when guys are players and are gaming them. I would go as far as to say that most women are turned off by guys who are players or are perceived as players.

The guys who are naturals know that it is not the game that you play but rather the connection that you make. While you were playing your game, your brother was making a connection with the girl.

Time and again I’ve been out with friends and they’d be playing the women and I’d do little more than look a girl in the eyes, connecting with her that way and then everything else is just us playing together.

So, for instance when your brother says something like, “I want to smell your perfume before I leave” it may sound really lame to you and make no sense that she would respond positively to it. However, if your brother and she had already made a connection then it makes sense. It’s not what he says, it is just that he is talking to her, that they are interacting.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Thatfeel21

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potato hit it head on..youre "playing games" with her with your CnF type mess while your bro is straight up showing he could be interested...to many ppl on this board think CnF is the secret to getting any girl
 
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