mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
NO!!! It never ends. These are STARS in their realm. They will have entitlement. They will be prone to a group think. They will tie you to a type and bias for or against you depending.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Volunteering and community service
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
So we are talking like newbies in this subject. ( I'm sure that guru and glassguy can nail it ). But when I had these opportunities, and I was I had the 4-C's during that time ( Car, Clothes, Crib, Convo ). I had nice stuff, a nice career and I was on the scene. It was no big deal to have these things. But I could've done better knowing what I know now. I'm not in that realm, today, still working back in after a blow out divorce, but I assume that those types will not consider you without at least the 4-C's and some popularity in some social scene.
logicallefty
Moderator
I started as an Auxiliary Police officer when I was 30 which is my State is volunteer. Turned it into a career and now I am the real deal. The ironic thing is I was never one of those guys growing up who wanted to be a cop. I didn't become a paid sworn officer until I was 33. I absolutely love it.
RickTheToad
Moderator
Why even entertain an conversation like this? You know he doesn't understand.
RickTheToad
Moderator
Do you dudes still get free donuts?
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
logicallefty
Moderator
We do, but I don't eat them. I do like bacon jerky tho.
RickTheToad
Moderator
Try a Krispy Kreme, you'll die. I treat myself to one, maybe once a year when I am @ GCS in NYC.