mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
NO!!! It never ends. These are STARS in their realm. They will have entitlement. They will be prone to a group think. They will tie you to a type and bias for or against you depending.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Volunteering and community service
- Thread starter oldmanofthesea
- Start date
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
So we are talking like newbies in this subject. ( I'm sure that guru and glassguy can nail it ). But when I had these opportunities, and I was I had the 4-C's during that time ( Car, Clothes, Crib, Convo ). I had nice stuff, a nice career and I was on the scene. It was no big deal to have these things. But I could've done better knowing what I know now. I'm not in that realm, today, still working back in after a blow out divorce, but I assume that those types will not consider you without at least the 4-C's and some popularity in some social scene.
logicallefty
Moderator
I started as an Auxiliary Police officer when I was 30 which is my State is volunteer. Turned it into a career and now I am the real deal. The ironic thing is I was never one of those guys growing up who wanted to be a cop. I didn't become a paid sworn officer until I was 33. I absolutely love it.
RickTheToad
Moderator
Why even entertain an conversation like this? You know he doesn't understand.
RickTheToad
Moderator
Do you dudes still get free donuts?
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
logicallefty
Moderator
We do, but I don't eat them. I do like bacon jerky tho.
RickTheToad
Moderator
Try a Krispy Kreme, you'll die. I treat myself to one, maybe once a year when I am @ GCS in NYC.