"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
taiyuu_otoko
Master Don Juan
But plenty of people do things simply because they enjoy it. Not because they see it as a ticket to a non stop unicorn parade.
Approaching random hotties on the street (or anywhere you come across them) can be a FANTASTIC way to have fun, that doesn't cost a nickel. So long as you don't care what happens, and see it ONLY as having fun, it's a great way to slowly expand your social skills.
Even somebody like Dave could find ways to have fun with playful openers:
Hi, my name's Dave and I absolutely suck with women. I'm definitely NOT trying to pick you up, because if I was I would have passed out from terror right now. I'm just trying to improve my social skills by talking to gorgeous women. So, uh, what's your favorite color?
all butt hurt because of one flake...... sad
who would say that.
Papa_smu
Banned
I've said it on occasion
I remember back in college I bought a Cosmo magazine and sat out on the corner on the street where girls would be getting out of class. I would ask them their opinion on an article in the magazine and when they asked why I wanted to know, I told them the truth:
"To be honest, I don't know women very well but my friend Neil suggested I should read these magazines to better understand them"
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
taiyuu_otoko
Master Don Juan
Anybody who is approaching any other human WITHOUT needing a specific outcome like a lay or a girlfriend
Also, it is an EXAMPLE.
It is possible to come up with your own ideas, you don't have to copy and paste ideas from the internet into somebody's brain.
20% can get results consistently with a lot of time and effort.
The top third of men in attractiveness can consider it. The top half of that top third will get good results with a lot of time and effort.
wifehunter
Master Don Juan
wifehunter
Master Don Juan
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
backseatjuan
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