"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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VIDEO - AFC on a blind date with HB9 (NOT from a TV show)

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=ONqXPi9v-uU

I think sosuave covers everything that this guy should NOT be doing LOL

this is not from any dating show, but apparently a home video someone made, possibly with a hidden camera.......i believe this ISNT fake, in which case, all i gotta say is WOW
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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arlanda said:
HB9?!? She's maybe 7.5.
skip thinks shes a 9, you think shes a 7 i say we use the 0-1 scale

0=shes a fat cow

1=definatly fvckable
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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arlanda, i bet u say shes a 7.5 based on her being dressed conservitively....but what I see is a beautiful face and what is most definitely a HOT very nice body underneath

she doesnt have to be dressed slutty to get a 9
 

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oh shyt i didnt kno it was fake, i didnt watch any of the other videos there.,.....but u guys do realize that even tho its not to THAT extreme, THAT is basically how a stupid AFC acts on a date
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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oh shyt i didnt kno it was fake, i didnt watch any of the other videos there.,.....but u guys do realize that even tho its not to THAT extreme, THAT is basically how a stupid AFC acts on a date
Are you sure? I think he handled pretty well for a guy who is barely able to talk and hasn't at least made a bit of efford to look good. :)

I always thought of AFCs as regular guys who do everything "right" and still don't get anything.
 

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Dude, she's definately an HB7 at best! Your scale is really fvcked up!
 

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Skydiver43127 said:
Are you sure? I think he handled pretty well for a guy who is barely able to talk and hasn't at least made a bit of efford to look good. :)

I always thought of AFCs as regular guys who do everything "right" and still don't get anything.
An AFC is the opposite of a DJ. Any sensible woman has a good time on a date with a DJ. I think of an AFC as any guy with absolutely no clue as to how women think, what they want, how to get and keep her ineterest, etc. So if this guy was for real, he would definitely be an AFC.
 

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You guys forget the definition of AFC.

AVERAGE-frustrated-chump

If it's real THIS GUY IS NOT AVERAGE. The *average* is basically a normal guy you know, most men I know CAN hold a conversation, but just have a fcked up idea that women are the prize and they have to work for it.

This guy would be FCKED UP, he's not AFC. He's far from that.
 

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Heh, it must be so much easier for AFC girls to attract guys, all they have to do is start dressing sl*tty to get more attention from dudes.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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ok so this video is FAKE, as somone pointed out earlier in the thread........but what can u learn from this? did u guys notice the ONE thing the chick hated the MOST???

THE GUY DIDNT HAVE A PLAN.....he said what do YOU wanna do?

i read it b4 on sosuave, u ALWAYS must lead.....thats at least somethin to take out of this fake lil video
 

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Well I would say she is a 7 perhaps a low 8 in more flattering clothes and makeup

My scale is

1 Vommit wrenchingly ugly - I cannot remember seeing any of them
2 Very very ugly - terrible body terrible face - 1/100 young woman
3 Ugly - can be looked at without having to avoid her face but it is hard even imagine anyone having relations with her.
4 Very plain,
5 Low average: not ugly by any means but many girls are prettier
6 High average: when they have a nice personality and dress well they could be desirable
7 Quite pretty: prettier then most girls but perhaps with noticeable flaws, girls like her make men take a second glance
8 exceptionally pretty: a girl like this could make it as a model
9 Stunning: wow! a rare beauty, it is hard not to stare
10 Perfect: all parts of her physical apperance are flawless. I have only seen a few woman like this in the last few years (I live in the UK)
 

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1 Vommit wrenchingly ugly - I cannot remember seeing any of them
2 Very very ugly - terrible body terrible face - 1/100 young woman
3 Ugly - can be looked at without having to avoid her face but it is hard even imagine anyone having relations with her.
4 Very plain,
5 Low average: not ugly by any means but many girls are prettier
6 High average: when they have a nice personality and dress well they could be desirable
7 Quite pretty: prettier then most girls but perhaps with noticeable flaws, girls like her make men take a second glance
8 exceptionally pretty: a girl like this could make it as a model
9 Stunning: wow! a rare beauty, it is hard not to stare
10 Perfect: all parts of her physical apperance are flawless. I have only seen a few woman like this in the last few years (I live in the UK)
1-4 -> don't even register

5-6 -> i at least notice them

7 -> For me, this is a very cute girl... for whatever reason she has a certain style, a certain type of voice or physical feature that appeals to me greatly and I just smile when I think about them.

7.5 -> 7 + great personality (most girls I date are here)

8.0 -> Most desired by me, more physically attractive than a 7 (better body, face is usually around that of 7), but also has the cute features that I desire

9 - 10 -> Exceptionally beautiful, pretty much perfect... perfection dosen't interest me much... can't hate they are beautiful, but not too desireful for me



-Cod3r
 

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Cod3r said:
1-4 -> don't even register
No, trust me, you will notice the 1s and 2s, or at least your stomach will :nervous: :nervous: :nervous:
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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