"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Victoria's Secret

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Hey Don Juan's!!!
I must say this site is ridiculously useful not just with girls but with changing one's total oulook in life, I say this because it did i feel like i have a different outlook and ive only been reading threads only a week now.

Fight Club is my favorite movie of all time and i remember someone reffering to it and i can't that off my mind.

This is my first post.

I just need some advice on how to approach this broad i've been noticing, the dilemma is she works @ Victoria's Secret whick seems like an awkward place for a dude to come in just to approach a girl.
I need advice on a good Ice breaker (I am open to any).

Oh and I think she does notice me because ive caught her a few times eye balling me from head to toe. We've also exchange a few smiles.

please fellas i just don't know how to break the ice.

Thanks.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Just ask her to help you find something for your sister. Then start talking to her from there.

(I am kidding. Do not do this.)
 

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Originally posted by Giovanni Casanova
Just ask her to help you find something for your sister. Then start talking to her from there.

(I am kidding. Do not do this.)

No - not your sister. But tell her you're looking for something for a "friend". She will infer that you have a female friend you buy lingerie from - [kinda] social proof.
 

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Originally posted by jakethasnake
No - not your sister. But tell her you're looking for something for a "friend". She will infer that you have a female friend you buy lingerie from - [kinda] social proof.
But if you do this, you have to be pretty careful. I wouldn't try this at home... I'd leave it to professionals on a closed course. Why?

  1. If you tell her you're buying lingerie for a "friend", and then start hitting on her, she may very well think you're either (a) lying; or (b) a dirty, dirty player.
  2. If you're not pretty aggressive, saying you are buying lingerie for a "friend" might get you labelled as "taken" in her mind.
  3. Victoria's Secret girls are not necessarily stupid. They realize that there are two kinds of men who go into Victoria's Secret: "taken" men, and men attempting to use ruses to pick up girls who work at Victoria's Secret. [/list=1]
 

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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Originally posted by Giovanni Casanova
But if you do this, you have to be pretty careful. I wouldn't try this at home... I'd leave it to professionals on a closed course. Why?

  1. If you tell her you're buying lingerie for a "friend", and then start hitting on her, she may very well think you're either (a) lying; or (b) a dirty, dirty player.
  2. If you're not pretty aggressive, saying you are buying lingerie for a "friend" might get you labelled as "taken" in her mind.
  3. Victoria's Secret girls are not necessarily stupid. They realize that there are two kinds of men who go into Victoria's Secret: "taken" men, and men attempting to use ruses to pick up girls who work at Victoria's Secret. [/list=1]



  1. Right. But I had assumed that a guy using this ruse would be aggressive and very suggestive to the salesgirl. This type of pickup is only designed for the type of girl that gets off on 'seducing' men that are already with a woman - in other words, competitive slvts. So that's what I suggested. Hmmmm..... on second thought this might work with a Hooters girl or a stripper, but not necessarily with a Victoria's Secret girl. Could be worth a try, just as an experiment.
 

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Originally posted by Giovanni Casanova
But if you do this, you have to be pretty careful. I wouldn't try this at home... I'd leave it to professionals on a closed course. Why?

  1. If you tell her you're buying lingerie for a "friend", and then start hitting on her, she may very well think you're either (a) lying; or (b) a dirty, dirty player.
  2. If you're not pretty aggressive, saying you are buying lingerie for a "friend" might get you labelled as "taken" in her mind.
  3. Victoria's Secret girls are not necessarily stupid. They realize that there are two kinds of men who go into Victoria's Secret: "taken" men, and men attempting to use ruses to pick up girls who work at Victoria's Secret. [/list=1]


  1. So what? she'll know you're interested. Thats what you want isn't it?
 

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Originally posted by jonny football hero
So what? she'll know you're interested. Thats what you want isn't it?
Apparently not. If that was the only goal, he would just go into Victoria's Secret, walk up to this girl, and say, "Hey there. My name is Yohanes. I am interested in you."
 

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Say that you want to buy a piece of lingerie for a friend... a guy friend as a joke. That would get a conversation started. :p :D
 

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Why not just go in there looking for some guy stuff? Like they have some of the best men's colognes in there, just ask her to help you pick a good one out.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Actually.. I'd advise against becoming a customer. If you think she noticed you, and you noticed her.. ignore your little voice that says it's awkward to just go in and approach her.

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Yep. Don't try to trick her into talking to you. Show her you have balls and just walk straight up to her and talk to her.

"Had to drop in and say i find you facinating. How about we go get a bite to eat when you get off work?."

Something to that effect should work great if she truly is interested in you like you think.
 

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With all seriousness, how did you know she worked at Victoria Secret - were you in the store for some reason? See her through a window? What?

Thats your in to talk to her... but you'll have to do that just go straight up a cold approach her.
 

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(walks into store)

her: hi... may i help you sir.. what are you looking for?

me: how about something sexy in your size? -wink-

her: -giggle- i don't think that's possible sir

me: damn. gimme your number anyway, we should go for a coffee.

her: evil ulterior motives eh. (makes sure boss isnt looking and adds her number on my phone)

me: (big grin)

went out a couple of times with her, still seeing her occasionally.

saying something ****y/funny will work in this scenario
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Thanks for all the advice fellas I will take all of them into cosideration...............will let you guys know how it turns out.

peace
 
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