okay i've been trying and been doing everything on this sight but cant seem to get the nice guy reputation off of my name. girls wont even start up convos with me and dont really want to talk to me. and to make it worse one of my best friends(nice guys) seems to be getting a lot of attention from a lot of girls. it seems reversed situations. i am getting very unmotivated. any help?
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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just stop being so nice or read the dj bible
john paul
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Becoming your new DJ self isnt going to happen over night. Its going to be a slow transformation and its going to be even slower for people to realise your changing.
Make sure you know how the DJ acts and give it a month for some noticable changes. Its been about 5 months for me now and im starting to see some big changes in how people see and respect me.
Make sure you know how the DJ acts and give it a month for some noticable changes. Its been about 5 months for me now and im starting to see some big changes in how people see and respect me.
How long you been doin this for?
Um, duh. Girls are passive. YOU have to take ACTION and initiate with THEM. A DJ just doesn't wait around for girls to approach him...girls wont even start up convos with me
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
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Yeah I know what that's like.lsu03 said:okay i've been trying and been doing everything on this sight but cant seem to get the nice guy reputation off of my name. girls wont even start up convos with me and dont really want to talk to me. and to make it worse one of my best friends(nice guys) seems to be getting a lot of attention from a lot of girls. it seems reversed situations. i am getting very unmotivated. any help?
You have to start up conversations with girls at first and then they'll start conversation with you.
Remember, don't give a damn what anyone else thinks.
Since your friend is getting so much attention, just hang around with him more and you'll be able to talk to girls.
“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
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Quick advice: Worry less about how youre percieved. If youre a good person, do what makes you happy and leave it at that. You cannot require others validation your entire life or you will be miserable. I hope this helps, feel free to PM me if you have any questions.
man, ok just a quick note, what do u mean by nice? if a girl asks u to move a bit so that she can get in to get her beer, what would u do? would u say,"only if u buy me one" or just say,"sure" with a smile and then moving aside turning ur back to her? nice is not when u behave good with a girl, nice is when u try to be too good with a girl. thats a turn off to a girl. just dont act needy, be happy with urself and for the time being, focus on how to build the chemistry with a girl or girls while at the same time, coming off as a prize. that will solve ur prob and check this whole site thouroughly and make naturals friends as many as possible.
Hey Isu
One thing to think about is not actually thinking about it
Leave your mind to be free of the worry and let yourself have a good time whatever you're doing
They don't approach you? so what? They're the ones to be next sat alone thinking of what they should have said to you when they see you leaving with a hot lass that day.
It can only be done with confidence, a genuine smile and no worries at all
As long as you feel comfortable, everyone around you will too, just have fun, tease them and they will be at your feet by the next day.
One thing to think about is not actually thinking about it
Leave your mind to be free of the worry and let yourself have a good time whatever you're doing
They don't approach you? so what? They're the ones to be next sat alone thinking of what they should have said to you when they see you leaving with a hot lass that day.
It can only be done with confidence, a genuine smile and no worries at all
As long as you feel comfortable, everyone around you will too, just have fun, tease them and they will be at your feet by the next day.
'I can't get rid of my niceguy image'
That's the problem, you are still worrying about what people think of you. That's a nice guy trait. You can try to be a bad@ass, you just be one.
Ok that's a bit harsh considering your just starting, but you wont truly lose your imagine untill you geniuenly stop caring about what people think of you.
That's the problem, you are still worrying about what people think of you. That's a nice guy trait. You can try to be a bad@ass, you just be one.
Ok that's a bit harsh considering your just starting, but you wont truly lose your imagine untill you geniuenly stop caring about what people think of you.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Stop caring about what people think you are, and be less nice, adopt the personality you want. Pretty soon people will start realising you're different. I was a 'nice guy' in secondary school (age 11-16), but now, nearly 3 years on, all those girls I knew from school instantly realise I'm completely different now when they meet me.
Just keep it up mate.
Just keep it up mate.
ok lsu, i have a slightly modified advice for u: dont become completely different suddenly, it would lose u some friends, u bet and u wont like that. guys, we are trying to improve ourselves. we would gradually change ourselves and if u had not been meeting someone for a long time, they might meet u someday and it seems u have changed a lot but that is natural to be taken after a long time, isnt it? i would ask u just to stop doing anything nice or too good to anyone at the moment unless it is urgent (applies more importantly to girls) and try to stand out by being different and a bit more adventurous fun.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.