Squy
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"Blank Mind on Dates? She's Dropping Hints You Keep Missing"
The plates get cleared and the silence lands like a brick. You can feel her waiting. Your brain offers up your commute, your job, the weather — topics that have ended more second dates than bad breath.
Here's what most guys never learn: women hand out free conversational material all night long. Tiny clues about what they actually want to discuss. Catch them and you never run out of things to say — because she's telling you what to say next.
Rule 4 of the "22 Rules" trains your ear to catch every single one.
Very Incredible Stuff Here
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Gangster Of Love
Master Don Juan
This post is pretty good. I don't think anyone else has brought it up on this thread, but that is mostly taken from David Deangelo's ebook Double Your Dating, I was reading it today for the 3rd time. This thread was started years ago, probably before David's book, so I wonder if he posted it himself originally, or somebody got a hold of his rough drafts. Very interesting.
Fillmore Slim
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Heard this Before
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heteropedro
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Thats deangelos stuff. Download his ebook on ***** if your a cheap bastard.
Lost
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what is the purpose of this:
"Here are a couple of rules of thumb that I use:
1) Never give a woman a direct answer. unless the answer is NO. This is a big one. If she says 'Can we sit here?" I say "No, let's sit in this one next to it" or if she says "How do you like my dress?" I say "Well, I think that I like it. just give me a few minutes to see it on you" or if she says "Call me tomorrow" I say "No. You call me tomorrow. cummon, you want me and you know it" Get it?
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like if a chick asks if i like her hair or glasses or WHATEVER.. and im like hmm lemme think about it.....wtf?
"Here are a couple of rules of thumb that I use:
1) Never give a woman a direct answer. unless the answer is NO. This is a big one. If she says 'Can we sit here?" I say "No, let's sit in this one next to it" or if she says "How do you like my dress?" I say "Well, I think that I like it. just give me a few minutes to see it on you" or if she says "Call me tomorrow" I say "No. You call me tomorrow. cummon, you want me and you know it" Get it?
"
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like if a chick asks if i like her hair or glasses or WHATEVER.. and im like hmm lemme think about it.....wtf?
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Some confusion here I see...
For those of you who don't know, Sisonpyh (The author of this) was David DeAngelo's nick on some newsletter before he came out with his DYD book. This is a great post tho....
For those of you who don't know, Sisonpyh (The author of this) was David DeAngelo's nick on some newsletter before he came out with his DYD book. This is a great post tho....
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Sisonpyh is David deangelo! 
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
duke007
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Bumpity-bump!
This stuff is amazing! I'm disappointed that I only just found this thread....I haven't felt this way since the day I first read Pook's "Be A Man"
This stuff is amazing! I'm disappointed that I only just found this thread....I haven't felt this way since the day I first read Pook's "Be A Man"
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yeah this has got to be David DeAngelo's stuff... he always makes mention of finding guys who know their shyt to go hang out with to learn from. He also makes mention of "comedy writing secrets" all the time and finally the way it sounds totally has at least some trace of David D's material.
still was a good read
still was a good read
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I beleive the original author of this post might be no other than David DeAngelo.
He was once one of RJ student, brother Evan if Im not mistaken.
Please note I could be wrong.
He was once one of RJ student, brother Evan if Im not mistaken.
Please note I could be wrong.
brat-buster
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Definatly stuff from DeAngelo's book and cd's.....Verbatum.
It does work tho......good stuff
It does work tho......good stuff
izza
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That was amazing.
--Izza
--Izza
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
The Juan and only
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yes, I believe "David Deangelo" also goes by the screen name "Sisonpyh"... (+ I read that his real name is actually Eben pagan..or soemthing like that)..all very confusing.
Agreed... Neil Strauss talks about it in his book "The Game". David Deangelo used to post in the lair as Sisonpyh, and actually began his game through internet chats and what not. Pretty cool, but, as a pioneer in the game, he essentially started off where all YOU guys are at... in a discussion forum.
Who knows, Pook or Shezz or some others might make their own websites and start marketing their material. As long as it's not watered down and regurgitated, it'd definitely be awesome to see someone come out and represent for sosuave.com.
Or maybe speak at Cliff's List Convention '06... !!!
Who knows, Pook or Shezz or some others might make their own websites and start marketing their material. As long as it's not watered down and regurgitated, it'd definitely be awesome to see someone come out and represent for sosuave.com.
Or maybe speak at Cliff's List Convention '06... !!!
In any case good article, as some intro to DYD and DeAngelo stuff. I started my game from this method and it is good starter, but after some time i realized thet i missed something - complete game. This is good for attraction phase of game, but you need more. Good insights about this problem are in above mentioned Strauss' - Game.
dj ben2
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sorry to burst ur buble but that guy sysonymph wotever iz a fake hat was an extract from one of david deangeloes books, either he broke copywrite and published it or this sysonyphm dude knows how to copy and paste
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.