Using money to attract women without getting used

[metalwater]

I make well over 100K a year. I never have attempted to use it to attract women. Only people that feel they have no value to offer otherwise resort to that. It's the equivalent of buying women flowers and dinner on the first date. It reeks of desperation.

Probably not directly, but nice clothes and car and other stuff that is visible.. ?

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Probably not directly, but nice clothes and car and other stuff that is visible.. ?

I wear jeans and a t-shirt or jeans and a regular shirt. Nothing fancy. Drive a 6 year old SUV. Nothing fancy.

I am not into material things. Could care less about them. I am trying to retire by the end of this year.

 

[metalwater]

I don't think getting to six figures by 35-40 is as easy as you make it seem. Nevertheless, it is a lesser important point.

Women don't give any special treatment to a man in his 30s making $100,000-$149,999. In certain circles, women expect that their prospective boyfriends earn that. It's taken for granted. So, to really impress women by using your annual income, it needs to be much higher than the low six figures. $150k is likely the minimum, but that probably doesn't impress them enough. The number is likely over $200k.

It's just like other red pill stuff about women, effort, and investment of time. all can do it at least in USA. still many blue-collar ways to beat those numbers and white-collar many ways. Wanting to get it and not getting it, is like watching porn instead of meeting women.

nothing is easy, but it's possible and will be done if effort.

it takes about 10x average local income to be considered awesome just because of money. The difference between 100 and 200 is nill. The difference between 100 and 700 is a big deal. But 700 doesn't work if the woman works in or lives in a place that the average guy is 250...

 

[metalwater]

I wear jeans and a t-shirt or jeans and a regular shirt. Nothing fancy. Drive a 6 year old SUV. Nothing fancy.

I am not into material things. Could care less about them. I am trying to retire by the end of this year.

very cool, I stand corrected and impressed.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

You said escorts are good "for now," but that actually is the best way to use money anyway.

There's no point trying to have a "real" relationship based on money. (Despite the fact that this is what many relationships boil down to anyway).

Might as well use it to have fun. I've been traveling through Europe the past month. I've lost count of the number of attractive escorts I've seen during this time. Wear a condom and you won't catch any STDs and you won't have to worry about playing games or staying one step ahead of gold diggers.

 

[Serenity]

If you're using your money to attract women and have little else going for you, then more likely than not they will be attracted to your money, not you. You can play that game if you wish, but you'd be a fool to expect genuine desire and passion for you.

Money is external, you'll keep your trophy as long as you have your money and she benefits one way or another from that, but if that ever goes away so does your trophy. She may not benefit directly (by you giving her money or things), but keep in mind that she may benefit indirectly from your wealth (status, quality of life) which may be enough to keep her around.

If she's with you for the money, which is likely if that's your main way to attract, then there will be no end to her attempts to squeeze more out of you for herself.

The strategy of attracting women with money is fundamentally flawed if true desire and passion for you is what you seek. You cannot buy that, but you can buy sex though, the act of pretending they love you for whatever time you paid for.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

If you're using your money to attract women and have little else going for you, then more likely than not they will be attracted to your money, not you. You can play that game if you wish, but you'd be a fool to expect genuine desire and passion for you.

Money is external, you'll keep your trophy as long as you have your money and she benefits one way or another from that, but if that ever goes away so does your trophy. She may not benefit directly (by you giving her money or things), but keep in mind that she may benefit indirectly from your wealth (status, quality of life) which may be enough to keep her around.

If she's with you for the money, which is likely if that's your main way to attract, then there will be no end to her attempts to squeeze more out of you for herself.

The strategy of attracting women with money is fundamentally flawed if true desire and passion for you is what you seek. You cannot buy that, but you can buy sex though, the act of pretending they love you for whatever time you paid for.

Looks is external also.

The way people on here talk about "true desire" it's like they think every time a girl has sex with a guy, it's from some fantasy romance novel.

This place needs a reality check.

 

[Serenity]

Looks is external also.

Looks are partly external (in the sense that external means impossible or hard to change). There are some things you can do about it, others you cannot without invasive means.

Anyways, going fully for looks is as bad as going fully for money. You'll just end up being the trophy, as her trophy gets a little natural patina she will go looking for a shinier trophy.

The way people on here talk about "true desire" it's like they think every time a girl has sex with a guy, it's from some fantasy romance novel.

Every time? No, but think about it! Predominantly women read such novels and it makes them wet to no end. If you have ever read such a novel you'll know it's filled to the brim with sensual descriptions, not descriptions about how good looking, how rich or what the friends of the dude think of him.

You can mock romance novels all you want, but they vividly illustrate what pushes their buttons for maximum attraction. There's something to be learned from it if you have the depth to do so.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I don't think getting to six figures by 35-40 is as easy as you make it seem. Nevertheless, it is a lesser important point.

Women don't give any special treatment to a man in his 30s making $100,000-$149,999. In certain circles, women expect that their prospective boyfriends earn that. It's taken for granted. So, to really impress women by using your annual income, it needs to be much higher than the low six figures. $150k is likely the minimum, but that probably doesn't impress them enough. The number is likely over $200k.

Fvck them

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

Looks are partly external (in the sense that external means impossible or hard to change). There are some things you can do about it, others you cannot without invasive means.

Anyways, going fully for looks is as bad as going fully for money. You'll just end up being the trophy, as her trophy gets a little natural patina she will go looking for a shinier trophy.


Every time? No, but think about it! Predominantly women read such novels and it makes them wet to no end. If you have ever read such a novel you'll know it's filled to the brim with sensual descriptions, not descriptions about how good looking, how rich or what the friends of the dude think of him.

You can mock romance novels all you want, but they vividly illustrate what pushes their buttons for maximum attraction. There's something to be learned from it if you have the depth to do so.

I think only old or middle aged women care about romance novels. Any female who actually had a male with a working penis to satisfy her wouldn't be distracted by a book.

 

[Epicwinguy]

You said escorts are good "for now," but that actually is the best way to use money anyway.

There's no point trying to have a "real" relationship based on money. (Despite the fact that this is what many relationships boil down to anyway).

Might as well use it to have fun. I've been traveling through Europe the past month. I've lost count of the number of attractive escorts I've seen during this time. Wear a condom and you won't catch any STDs and you won't have to worry about playing games or staying one step ahead of gold diggers.

I don’t want relationships, but I lack the ****ing ability to make up new and totally original lines every minute. So my options are short term relationships and escorts. I feel like short term relationships can be cheaper.

 

[Serenity]

I think only old or middle aged women care about romance novels. Any female who actually had a male with a working penis to satisfy her wouldn't be distracted by a book.

Then you are sorely mistaken and even if they don't actively read these novels it doesn't change the fact that they're written to make women wet. They literally capitalize on pushing the right buttons.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

I don’t want relationships, but I lack the ****ing ability to make up new and totally original lines every minute. So my options are short term relationships and escorts. I feel like short term relationships can be cheaper.

You shouldn't be expected to have that ability. Have you ever heard girls try to "run game?" They're awful.

Unless you're still in college or younger, I wouldn't put too much hope in short-term relationships.

 

[Epicwinguy]

You shouldn't be expected to have that ability. Have you ever heard girls try to "run game?" They're awful.

Unless you're still in college or younger, I wouldn't put too much hope in short-term relationships.

But I can promise long term then break it off when I’ve gotten what I wanted and I’m sick of the relationship

 

[B80]

If I focus I’m sure I can be making six figures in my thirties. At least 100k a year. Until then just being with escorts is fine for me. I only like women in their 20s, preferably mid 20s. My genetics make getting abs a big pain in the ass and that paired with the fact I will be over 30, my looks won’t be enough. I’m not a rap battler, so my “game” won’t be good enough. I’m going for using money to attract women, but I want to make sure I’m getting ***** from them if they are benefiting from my money. What’s the best way to do this?

Mainly nice clothes, live in half decent area, nice car etc. When you go out with them, go to nice bars (I don't like go to restaurants for dates - early ones anyway). Drinks may cost a few dollars more, but if earning decent money, thats neither here nor there imo. I prefer going to nice bars anyway, generally nicer environments, better service, less idiots acting up etc

I know you're aware of this, but it's just part of the overall picture, need to have other stuff going for you. Need to be at least average in all the other areas - looks, physique, personality - all of which can be improved by a notch or 2. You don;t need abs, but I'm assuming as you allude to it being a pain in the arse you're naturally stocky. So lifting weights and adjusting diet should allow you to look well built, have presence etc.

If you're a dork/autist, average looks, out of shape and leading with money you're not going to attract anyone particularly attractive, or mainly gold digger types.

 

[B80]

It's just like other red pill stuff about women, effort, and investment of time. all can do it at least in USA. still many blue-collar ways to beat those numbers and white-collar many ways. Wanting to get it and not getting it, is like watching porn instead of meeting women.

nothing is easy, but it's possible and will be done if effort.

it takes about 10x average local income to be considered awesome just because of money. The difference between 100 and 200 is nill. The difference between 100 and 700 is a big deal. But 700 doesn't work if the woman works in or lives in a place that the average guy is 250...

Yes, woman I was seeing had a friend that was dating a scaffolder who'd worked his way up to owning his own firm. Seemed to be doing ok as had newish X5M and bought his g/f a new/nearly new Merc C class with a personal plate within a year of knowing each other (hilariously the plate was some variation of BOSS). Girl I was seeing told me about this and how he bought her some shoes or handbags for £2kish as well. At first I let just laughed, then when she mentioned it again I tactfully said its a bit extreme - partly in a way to covertly say, don't expect the same from me.

She also shown me some 2-3k handbags she likes a few times and no doubt was expecting me to be like her friends boyfriend. Didn't even annoy me, theres no chance I'd ever spend that on g/f, especially not one I'd only been seeing a few months.

Plus she was talking about houses she was apparently viewing around 750-1 mill mark. She had good job but no way could afford them alone.

No doubt thought she was being subtle/testing me, but piecing everything together, didn;'t paint herself in good light. No way I'd tie myself down to someone like that, no doubt would jump ship if your income went downhill, or men end up working themselves to death with fear of losing their partner if they can't maintain the lifestyle they've grown accustomed to.

Whilst there are no doubt expert gold diggers who can keep a fascade for years, I think being on this site, having awareness of female nature, and paying attention to how they are, you can work out their motivations over time. You have to be honest with your overall 'smv' as well. If yoou're with a 8 or 9, socially a bit awkward not overly phsyically attractive and/or a lot older why would they be with you? Also, no one is forcing you to spend extravagant money on them. Obviously if you have kids together or get married it can become a legal matter, then it becomes difficult to protect your wealth.

If you're physically attractive and have money, you will be more attractive to women, but still don;t need to spend loads on them. Particularly if you're just looking to have fun and not get tied down in typical long term relationships.

I previously spent a lot of time in THailand around bar girls so seen how they operate, try to suck men in, play their western boyfriends/husbands who live in another country for most of the year. It's pretty obvious to me. I struggle to see how anyone on this site can be drawn in by gold diggers if you keep your eyes open.

 

[metalwater]

Yes, woman I was seeing had a friend that was dating a scaffolder who'd worked his way up to owning his own firm. Seemed to be doing ok as had newish X5M and bought his g/f a new/nearly new Merc C class with a personal plate within a year of knowing each other (hilariously the plate was some variation of BOSS). Girl I was seeing told me about this and how he bought her some shoes or handbags for £2kish as well. At first I let just laughed, then when she mentioned it again I tactfully said its a bit extreme - partly in a way to covertly say, don't expect the same from me.

She also shown me some 2-3k handbags she likes a few times and no doubt was expecting me to be like her friends boyfriend. Didn't even annoy me, theres no chance I'd ever spend that on g/f, especially not one I'd only been seeing a few months.

Plus she was talking about houses she was apparently viewing around 750-1 mill mark. She had good job but no way could afford them alone.

No doubt thought she was being subtle/testing me, but piecing everything together, didn;'t paint herself in good light. No way I'd tie myself down to someone like that, no doubt would jump ship if your income went downhill, or men end up working themselves to death with fear of losing their partner if they can't maintain the lifestyle they've grown accustomed to.

Whilst there are no doubt expert gold diggers who can keep a fascade for years, I think being on this site, having awareness of female nature, and paying attention to how they are, you can work out their motivations over time. You have to be honest with your overall 'smv' as well. If yoou're with a 8 or 9, socially a bit awkward not overly phsyically attractive and/or a lot older why would they be with you? Also, no one is forcing you to spend extravagant money on them. Obviously if you have kids together or get married it can become a legal matter, then it becomes difficult to protect your wealth.

If you're physically attractive and have money, you will be more attractive to women, but still don;t need to spend loads on them. Particularly if you're just looking to have fun and not get tied down in typical long term relationships.

I previously spent a lot of time in THailand around bar girls so seen how they operate, try to suck men in, play their western boyfriends/husbands who live in another country for most of the year. It's pretty obvious to me. I struggle to see how anyone on this site can be drawn in by gold diggers if you keep your eyes open.

some will dance with them, and believe they can keep up and even ahead. some can, most loose.

 

[RBK]

I don't think getting to six figures by 35-40 is as easy as you make it seem. Nevertheless, it is a lesser important point.

Women don't give any special treatment to a man in his 30s making $100,000-$149,999. In certain circles, women expect that their prospective boyfriends earn that. It's taken for granted. So, to really impress women by using your annual income, it needs to be much higher than the low six figures. $150k is likely the minimum, but that probably doesn't impress them enough. The number is likely over $200k.

Correct. I make 150k. They don't give a ****. Always had a nice car, also didn't really matter.

 

[SW15]

Correct. I make 150k. They don't give a ****. Always had a nice car, also didn't really matter.

I'm not surprised that your $150k salary doesn't get you special treatment.

The car thing can help a man's confidence so indirectly I can see a nice car helping the cause. A nice car alone doesn't mean squat. Eliot Rodger had a solid BMW 3 Series. One of his grievances was that his BMW 3 Series was not getting him poontang. He also was not cold approaching but that didn't matter. He had an awkward vibe. I'm not sure if even a Ferrari or Lamborghini could have compensated for his vibe.

it takes about 10x average local income to be considered awesome just because of money. The difference between 100 and 200 is nill. The difference between 100 and 700 is a big deal. But 700 doesn't work if the woman works in or lives in a place that the average guy is 250...

This is good insight. By local income, what do define as local? The city? The county? Her social circle within that locale?

 

[RBK]

I'm not surprised that your $150k salary doesn't get you special treatment.

I wasn't looking for special treatment. Merely stating having a large salary and nice car doesn't magically make women flock to you.