"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
ur favorite way to start a conversation
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
check_mate_kid_uk
Master Don Juan
the times i just walk up and talk to a girl in another scenario eg when she is sitting talking to a freind i just say hey * wait for response* whats up, and i take it from their.
aproching is great because when ever i do it even if its a group of girls i have their undivded attention for quite a while then the ones im not talking to may tend to stop listining, but i dont know if its just me but whne i talk to a girl she always gives me her attention.
PRMoon
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Tha Realnezz
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It's not that hard you need practice.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
buy her a drink? ... *sigh* .. shame.
uturn: Walk up to a girl that you see, say 'hey I'm (your-name), was just talking with my friends and i couldnt resist but come speak to you, goid knows why, but here i am... so whats your name" <--- The conversation normally flows from that point onwards... no big deal
Laterz...
If u do that to some random chcik that u have never met/spoket to before, she will think that u are some sort of freak... thats not a good idea to "approach" a woman that u have nevver seen or spoken to before... thats what u say after u have introdused yourself etc.
Laterz...
There no techniques really or any canned pickup lines. just walk over say something. You're done. i have learned it from the Dating Teacher Marius Panzarella he is good at it.
true, but it actually happend to me. it was raining outside and i asked her if she was in line for coffee at the cafe and she said yes. and i proceeded from there. but i guess you can look at other angles. thx for ur input! but she did laugh thru-out the small convo. which i found really weird hmm.. hahaha
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
yes... asking her " are u in line for coffe" and asking her " so hows your day" are 2 different questions.. 1 is personall, 1 isnt... but i guess all girls are different... but in general, asking a girl that u dont know "how has ur day been" is kinda wierd
Laterz...
but all girls are different in their own special little way.RedKnight04
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Usually for the really HB's I accuse them of checking me out, and I ask them if they can be a little more discreet about it and stare them directly in the eye. If you do that right you'll usually get a laugh.
Sometimes for HB7's I'll give them a compliment. Face it they know they ain't fine and usually don't get MANY compliments so it tends to work for me.
Life-Trainee
Master Don Juan
Haha, reminds me of my last bar approach. The girl asked me to buy her a drink so I said to bartender to give her a glass of water.Originally posted by ~ªêQµïTª$~
buy her a drink? ... *sigh* .. shame.
uturn: Walk up to a girl that you see, say 'hey I'm (your-name), was just talking with my friends and i couldnt resist but come speak to you, goid knows why, but here i am... so whats your name" <--- The conversation normally flows from that point onwards... no big deal
Laterz...
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
GodsGiftToFatBirds
Senior Don Juan
Yo
I've just been reading Avator's approach journal, and i'd have to say i'm a big fan of his style of approach
For example: 'hi there, i just saw you over here and thought i'd like to meet you'
For me, this is a cracking opener - its confident and direct and gets over that awkward hurdle where you can't think of anything to say
I've only just been reading his thread but thats an opener i'm definately gonna try out myself (and not on a fat bird before anyone suggests it!!)
Royal Elite
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The best way is to say whatever is on your mind as a MAN. Stop over analayzing this. Its a small, frial, woman. Women are so stuck in their heads worrying about what you will think of her shoes, or her breast. That is what they do, not a Man. If she likes you, you can talk about paint drying and she will hang on your every word, pretending to be interested.
cactus3178
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PRMoon
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Again buy her a drink!!!
where else are you going to meet these girls? The Library? oh yeah there are winners there.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.