backseatjuan
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Is it ok on your first date to request two separate checks? If yes when you do it, when you first order, or when you're ready to leave?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Two separate checks plz
- Thread starter backseatjuan
- Start date
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Atom Smasher
Master Don Juan
If she is worth going out with, she is worth picking up the check. It sends a very, very bad message to a woman. Is it a double standard? Yes. It is just how the game is played. If she is to ultimately submit to you, you need to pick up the check on a date.
First dates should never be dinner anyway. They should be action dates, perhaps with a lunch thrown in.
First dates should never be dinner anyway. They should be action dates, perhaps with a lunch thrown in.
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Well once the time to pay comes it means I have all the info I need about the girl.
If she is not worth, shows low interested or busted my balls I have no problem at all to ask 2 different checks and the waitress in front of her.
Atom has a point but we come from two different generations and I simply adapted to the current world for my age group.
Personally toward the end of date 1 I can make a 90% accurate evaluation of the outcome of such interaction.
No need to waste money even few euros nor give the wrong message that no matter what, she is entitled to anything....only exception would for girls who are super polite and nice even if I dont like them.
If she is not worth, shows low interested or busted my balls I have no problem at all to ask 2 different checks and the waitress in front of her.
Atom has a point but we come from two different generations and I simply adapted to the current world for my age group.
Personally toward the end of date 1 I can make a 90% accurate evaluation of the outcome of such interaction.
No need to waste money even few euros nor give the wrong message that no matter what, she is entitled to anything....only exception would for girls who are super polite and nice even if I dont like them.
If your goal is not to get laid then by all means split the check. Just how it is...
You can gauge where things are going by the time dinner and drinks are over. If you don't think it's going anywhere then by all means split the check. Also, you should probably have bumped uglies by the time you are treating to moderately expensive dinners so in the end it's a wash.
You can gauge where things are going by the time dinner and drinks are over. If you don't think it's going anywhere then by all means split the check. Also, you should probably have bumped uglies by the time you are treating to moderately expensive dinners so in the end it's a wash.