"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Two dates in one day?

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ChocolateVanilla

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Hey everyone,


I'm about to go out to get some coffee with this one girl I met but I also want to take her ice skating with this group I'm going with. However, I didn't build a lot of rapport so I was wondering if it was a good idea to take her out to coffee and then go out with her later that night. So it's more like a first date in the morning and then hanging out with lots of people at night. So what do you guys think? Is it too much?

P.S. I've never ice skated before
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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smooth guy

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If your coffee date turns out fine it'll seem reasonable enough asking her to join you with your friends. You didn't build any rapport yet but isn't that the point of the coffee date?
Unless you spend the whole week with her, spending a few hours with her in a day won't do much harm. In fact if both dates go well it could work to your favor.
But it depends on how well the coffee date went.
 
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