"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Two dates in one day?

ChocolateVanilla

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Hey everyone,


I'm about to go out to get some coffee with this one girl I met but I also want to take her ice skating with this group I'm going with. However, I didn't build a lot of rapport so I was wondering if it was a good idea to take her out to coffee and then go out with her later that night. So it's more like a first date in the morning and then hanging out with lots of people at night. So what do you guys think? Is it too much?

P.S. I've never ice skated before
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

smooth guy

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If your coffee date turns out fine it'll seem reasonable enough asking her to join you with your friends. You didn't build any rapport yet but isn't that the point of the coffee date?
Unless you spend the whole week with her, spending a few hours with her in a day won't do much harm. In fact if both dates go well it could work to your favor.
But it depends on how well the coffee date went.
 
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