"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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trying to get the girl who is a friend!!!!

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ok, here it goes! i've known this girl for some time now, and we're good friends. but lately i'm starting to have more feelings for her. comes to find out, she tells me "I'm kinda not completely available, and it's kinda a long story"... what does this mean? you're either available or youre not!!! it took me by surprise because we would hang all the time on the weekends and never heard her mentioned a bf, so i figure she didnt have one. we live in different cities, but i dont mind the distance. we're suppose to go to a concert in l.a soon, dont know how i should react, now that she knows i like her as more than friends.
i think am too deep in the friend zone. has anyone been in similar situations? should i lay low for a while, and play it cool? any advice? thanks
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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yama600rr said:
comes to find out, she tells me "I'm kinda not completely available, and it's kinda a long story"... what does this mean?
that's not a good thing. pull back fast but gradually. maybe skip the concert. avoid the best friend zone before it's too late.
 

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it's too late

I bet she's COMPLETELY available when you are footing the bills for resturants, the concerts, and wahtever else "great times" you guys have

It means.. you can provide her everything execpt ****. she doesn't find you sexually attractive. Move on. nothing to cut back on. get the fvck out of there.

why do men even degrade themselves to fvck around with women who don't like them?
 

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backbreaker said:
it's too late

I bet she's COMPLETELY available when you are footing the bills for resturants, the concerts, and wahtever else "great times" you guys have

It means.. you can provide her everything execpt ****. she doesn't find you sexually attractive. Move on. nothing to cut back on. get the fvck out of there.

why do men even degrade themselves to fvck around with women who don't like them?
Agree. Withdraw your troops, but if you feel the need to keep her around as a friend, or as an "asset" for later ( by asset I mean someone who could help you out with other women etc. etc.) keep her but dont be as available as you normally are/were.
 

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lol, isn't the defination of "libality" something that you put **** into, and don't get **** out of?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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you think i should lay low for awhile. maybe not make contact with her, see how that goes. or maybe tell her that i found someone else to go with to the concert and see how she reacts.
 

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yama600rr said:
you think i should lay low for awhile. maybe not make contact with her, see how that goes. or maybe tell her that i found someone else to go with to the concert and see how she reacts.
i liek your way of thinking
 

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backbreaker said:
lol, isn't the defination of "libality" something that you put **** into, and don't get **** out of?
sorry i dont know what you're talking about?
 
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