Yo guys, hoping for some advice on this current female. Met her couple weeks back, we clicked great, got her number, been texting/talking on the phone, things were going great. She was giving me strong vibes that she liked me, and even hinted a couple of times. I decided to put myself out there (AFC, I know I know) and told her I wanted to get to know her as more than friends. She then tells me she's "seeing" some other dude, but otherwise she would have. I ask her who this guy is, and it turns out to be some **** that I hate. She also knows he's slept with other girls while he's been "seeing" her. Guessing it's my turn to be a ****, I now wanna bang this chick's brains out more than ever, just for personal satisfaction. Things haven't been weird between us and she's still giving me vibes of digging me. She's on holiday now so I figured it'd be some perfect no contact time, and she's back on Saturday. Any tips how to go about getting this girl who's so adamant about this man she's seeing verbally but is giving me these physical signals? Cheers bro's
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Trying to get a chick that's 'seeing someone'
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Well based on stuff I've read I'd say you pressed the fail button when you said "I want to get to know you as more than friends". That's straightforward and logical talk. It kills any emotions or attraction that she has for you because women don't respond sexually to logic. If you kept talking to her on an emotional level, getting her excited, then suggested you wanted to get to know her more in an emotional way then maybe she would respond better.
Droz888 has a point. It's best to show a girl with your actions that you like her rather than tell her. That just gives the game away but you realized your mistake and learned from so that's good. If she's "seeing" someone it doesn't necessarily mean that they are exclusive. I'd say keep talking to her and keep trying to push the envelope but keep it playful. You can get away with murder if you keep it playful.
One thing I've learned from reading these forums is that any woman can suddenly not be in a relationship if a bigger and better guy comes along. I don't necessarily think that's true but many here seem to have bought into it.IKO69 said:
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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Droz88 said:
True, perhaps.
But why waste your time chasing someone who has already turned you down? I stupidly did it once, and it is not worth your time and effort.
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Never verbally tell a woman you like her and want to take it to the next level. That's her job.
Also, ALL women are seeing someone. The very fact that she told you that should override all positive vibes that she gave you. She's just not that into you. Your princess is in another castle.
Case closed. Actions speak louder than words.
Also, ALL women are seeing someone. The very fact that she told you that should override all positive vibes that she gave you. She's just not that into you. Your princess is in another castle.
Case closed. Actions speak louder than words.
nismo-4 said:
I hear you bro. I realized that she ain't that into me. But I been getting bored lately of banging these chicks and wanted to switch it up a little, see if I can get a baited fish. But maybe it's not worth the trouble...
Mr.SomeoneElse
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When a woman is single you have the whole world to compete with. When a woman is in a relationship you only have one person to compete with.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
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This quote is going to end very badly for many.boyfriends lolMr.SomeoneElse said:
CrashOverRide
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I learned a long time ago that what a woman says and what a woman does can be completely different.
If a woman is giving you IOI's but mentions that she is "seeing" someone, all that is, is what's known as plausible deniability.
By her telling you this, she feels she's done her job and is morally exempt from anything that will happen further with you.
Just ignore it and game her like you would anyone else... there's a good chance she will hook up with you. In her mind she will rationalize it as "not being her fault" because she told you she was seeing someone.
If that doesn't make sense, just ask yourself.... do women?
If a woman is giving you IOI's but mentions that she is "seeing" someone, all that is, is what's known as plausible deniability.
By her telling you this, she feels she's done her job and is morally exempt from anything that will happen further with you.
Just ignore it and game her like you would anyone else... there's a good chance she will hook up with you. In her mind she will rationalize it as "not being her fault" because she told you she was seeing someone.
If that doesn't make sense, just ask yourself.... do women?
I feel you man. I'll start filling her in, with all the explicit details includedZarky said:
Haha I love it man. Makes alot of sense tbh.Mr.SomeoneElse said:
I've had the same experiences as you. I did think this was some kind of test, for her to see how far I was willing to go, but I wasn't too sure and really can't be bothered to get kicked out of uni for having a fight with a guy because of her girl. She's not worth that.CrashOverRide said: