"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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trying to crack 2 work girls at once

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Hey i work in a restaraunt as a dishy,and one of the chef apprentices she is pretty damn fine,im 18 she is 16... i dont see any problems..

1st girl.HB 7
ive been trying to have a crack at her,but it's hard to relate,she is one of those bubbly personalities types,and i cant seem to make her laugh,cause my humor seems to make older girls laugh,she works right next to me,and the other chefs are always around... she is the only girl in the back,but all the other guys are too old... anyone know how to get the 16 year old bubbly type? she isn't really an attention ***** either..

2nd girl HB 10,she is a waitress there.. she is 22 lol
and she talks to me way more,and is much easier to have a conversation with,i went back to her place the other night after a party.. but she just broke up with her bf so i didn't try anything... once again.. any views on how to get the older girl?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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You didn't try anything because you were scared, not because she just broke up with her boyfriend.

Any girl will give it up in such a situation if you make a move on her and you aren't ugly. You was in her place after a party for crying out loud! You should of just gone for the kill and had a casual one-time bang.

What is it you want with them?

The Muscly Jerk
 

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thanks for the reply,well it's hard to say... this is probably gonna sound stupid..

but i wanna hang out with either of them,like become out of work good friends?

then i can see what their like and see how it goes,sort of play the field with them... but it's at work,and i have to work with them,so i dont wanna cop ****
 

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Sounds like a task and a half!

I believe you should just be a 'guy' to them with no appologies. Being on 'friendly' terms really isn't good and rarely will you recover from being a friend.. women are like coin sorters!

You have probably already been placed in the 'too young' slot by the 22 year old - it's just how things are..... usually.. you may of been able to take advantage of her after that party just for sex but...... I think you will be wasting your efforts on her.

If I were you I would focus on the 16 year old.. it's the perfect age match in my opinion.

The Muscly Jerk
 

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ye yeah said:
this is probably gonna sound stupid..
Very stupid.

You're not being honest with yourself. Why would you want to be friends with them? 2) You don't need help being friends with someone, did you follow some techniques in order to get your current friends?

I was in a similar situation recently. They were two friends and I didn't know who to ask out, one was hotter but I still wasn't so sure. I noticed that the one that wasn't as hot held eye contact while talking and was usually the first to answer a question or to continue conversation, that was when I automatically went for the close.

This isn't the same since one is 16, and to tell you the truth I'm kind of blind in that area. But safe bet is to ask her out and do your thing.

I'd go for the older one. Just ask her out as said in the DJ Bible.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Dont mess with people at work its not worth it, go out with them and try to bang there friends. Thats what i do with chicks from work.
 

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Yeah, I'd steer clear of work girls. Even if it's not a serious career job, it could still make for an uncomfortable work situation.

I know from personal experience...
 

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^^^

Co-Signed... The moment you bust a nut, somehow the whispers of romantic fantasy get utterly obliterated by the thrashing thunders of piercing reality... you realize, within a moments notice, brotha man... you done fugged up.
 

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TONYMONTANA523 said:
Dont mess with people at work its not worth it, go out with them and try to bang there friends. Thats what i do with chicks from work.
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I agree!

I had to quit my job when I was 18 because I had sex with a married mom I worked with. She was like 24... She told her husband and one of my co-workers because she "felt guilty"... I basically couldn't stand the drama and got sick of watching my back as I left work. (Because if someone had sex with my wife and the mother of my child, I would beat the sh*t out of them.)
 

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thanks for all the replies guys,you's have a great point about the work scenario if things go bad.. well the 22 yr old is out,getting with her would be too much effort..

im gonna go for the 16 year old,im slowly gaing rapport,when i get enough rapport going with her,im gonna ask for her mobile number then to texts then to hanging out,and see how i go.. im faily confident with her cause im older,feels easier..

i'll update with any progress with her,i'll keep it ongoing.. cheers guys
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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