"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Hey to all who read this, i have a question to ask of you... one that your bound to be able to answer. Why is having a girl say she trusts you such a bad thing?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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If you are already her bf it's not. However if you are a friend and she says that it probably means you stand no chance of getting any p*ssy
 

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Why is that though? I mean what connection at all does her being turned on, desiring your body, getting wet, etc have with trust?

I only ask this because i see time and again it written here that if she says she trusts you, and as you said bobbles, if your not in a relationship together it's a bad sign. Yet i've heard it a number of times, not been with them in a relationship, yet still f***** them and had them wanting a relationship.

I mean are you guys here trying to suggest she's got to be scared of you, not trust you at all for her to even consider wanting you? Forgive me if i think that's a little basic, and quite a weak reason for thinking she's a lost chance.
 

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I don't think it's a scared of you thing, more of a she doesn't know you enough thing.

There is more room for her to imagine you being whatever the fvck she wants you to be that way.
 

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Now that does begin to make sense.

Couldn't we say though that it's possible for her to trust you in the same way she'd trust a boyfriend? Feeling safe with you, feeling open with you, and still desiring you?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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"I trust you."

Translation:

"I want you to feel guilty for being with other women."


Women throw "I trust you." around far too much. Trust is earned, not given freely. I'm beginning to believe it is a ho's set up for when she breaks things off (should you become "intimate"): "I can't believe you did this! I trusted you! It's OVER!"

It's a silly game. Don't play into it. Bust them at it: "You trust me? To do what? You trust me with what?" Make them explain their gibberish and watch them squirm.

Trust is understood: the fact that a woman actually vocalizes it points to a different motivation behind it and calls the legitimacy into question.
 

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Having a woman's genuine unbridelled desire is better than having her implicit trust.
 

Hawke

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Vulpine said:
********:

"I trust you."

Translation:

"I want you to feel guilty for being with other women."


Women throw "I trust you." around far too much. Trust is earned, not given freely. I'm beginning to believe it is a ho's set up for when she breaks things off (should you become "intimate"): "I can't believe you did this! I trusted you! It's OVER!"

It's a silly game. Don't play into it. Bust them at it: "You trust me? To do what? You trust me with what?" Make them explain their gibberish and watch them squirm.

Trust is understood: the fact that a woman actually vocalizes it points to a different motivation behind it and calls the legitimacy into question.
Hmmmm, what would you say then if it was a guy who asked the girl if she trusted him? And she was to say she did.

Rollo Tomassi, i definately can't aruge with you there. Desire is much better... i'm just trying to work out why all the negativity i see associated with the line "I trust you."
 

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It's not the actual line, I'd stop analyzing something so small.

It's the fact she's in a position to say it to you means she's probally thinking about somebody else.

Doesn't mean NOTHING will ever happen with a chick that says that to you, don't come to delusional conclusions.

lol, it's just words man, actions speak louder.
 
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