Trump Reached Deal With Mexico

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Trump reached a deal with Mexico so they could avoid tariffs. In exchange they have agreed to help the US with the illegal immigrant crisis. It would be so easy for the Liberals to start supporting this president so they too can be on the winning team. And the thing about it is they would be welcome on the Trump train. The Trump train does not discriminate. Every time Trump wins I get internal joy down to my bone marrow watching the liberals get mad, and watching the Democratic Party self destruct. My favorite part about the political climate today is going online and seeing all of the angry comments from the liberals. It just keeps getting better and better and better and better and better.
 

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That's good news, I was fearing the worst there. Of course, who knows what Mexico will actually do about the illegal immigrant crisis, but it looks good at least.
 

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I've got to give him credit, Trump got some serious results on this, at least on paper.
 

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@logicallefty Sounds like one of those Obama deals with healthcare!

Let me tell, the wall, this now, all that are political moves, and none of it are actual measures. Actual measures include border patrol capable of controlling the border. Mine fields. Barb wire. Detection electronics.
 

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@logicallefty Sounds like one of those Obama deals with healthcare!

Let me tell, the wall, this now, all that are political moves, and none of it are actual measures. Actual measures include border patrol capable of controlling the border. Mine fields. Barb wire. Detection electronics.
If I were president I wouldn’t be against that stuff.
 

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@logicallefty How @Mexico can help?
Most illegals are not coming from Mexico but through Mexico. Mexico used to have tight restrictions on their southern border, but lately have been shuttling them all the way, with help from various NGO's.

So the Mexican government does have a certain amount of control over the illegals coming across the US border, as they have to get into Mexico first.

So long as the pain from any tariffs are greater than whatever they are getting from NGO's, it's a rational decision on Mexico's part.
 

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Mexico's gonna build a wall and Guatemala is gonna pay for it!
 

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Definitely seems like Mexico is paying now!
Yep they seem to care about the border situation now. Imagine that. Far position from 2016 when candidate Trump said he was gonna build the wall and make them pay for it and they pretty much told him to F off.
 

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Yep they seem to care about the border situation now. Imagine that. Far position from 2016 when candidate Trump said he was gonna build the wall and make them pay for it and they pretty much told him to F off.
The world political stage for the last 60 years has in many ways been like a Beta dealing with a night at the club or bar.

Unfortunately the US has been the Beta while much of the bar is full of AMOGs.

Hell, feminism is that one b1tch who doesn't shut up and keeps trying to start $hit.

Glad to see we as a nation are finally grabbing our ballsack and setting boundaries.
 

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I did notice today a couple of headlines that said something to the effect of "Trump solves crisis of his own making." Waste of time to link them. The implication was that Trump created a problem and solved it while the world supposedly teetered. I think that is a bit disingenuous, but it was AP and NYT type stuff, so what do you expect. He did take a huge risk with American business, but it worked out for him, and the MSM does not want to give him credit.

There are a LOT of things I don't like about the man and the president, but like I said - credit where it's due.

Oh and I wonder, are Mexicans xenophobes now too?
 

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Yep they seem to care about the border situation now. Imagine that. Far position from 2016 when candidate Trump said he was gonna build the wall and make them pay for it and they pretty much told him to F off.
45 needed to do something to have a (perceived) win for the 2020 elections. He spins everything. It makes me wonder what the behind the scenes deal was, the one they aren't reporting/we aren't hearing about. The one that actually benefits Mexico in some way but the agreement is to not reveal that aspect.

Not to mention, mexico stood on their F off to 45. They aren't funding a wall.
 

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45 needed to do something to have a (perceived) win for the 2020 elections. He spins everything. It makes me wonder what the behind the scenes deal was, the one they aren't reporting/we aren't hearing about. The one that actually benefits Mexico in some way but the agreement is to not reveal that aspect.

Not to mention, mexico stood on their F off to 45. They aren't funding a wall.
Mexico's benefit was to not have to pay tariffs.

And yes they are funding the wall, either way they would have been funding it, by tariffs, or by paying to deal with the migrant problem.
 

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All of you are paying big fat tariffs on Chinese goods whether you realize it or not. I paid a sizeable Trump tariff last week on farm supplies that are #1 essential, and #2 only made in China. Thanks so much, Great Leader. Once he drives small farmers out of business with his idiotic trade policies, large corporate interests will then be able to swoop in and buy our country's farmland. Many of those interests are Chinese. Look at the pork section of the grocery store the next time you are there. Everything that is Smithfield is owned by the Chinese. They also get giant chunks of Trump's aid bailout money, too. Those are taxpayer dollars that are just handed straight to China. They are the ones invading us, not the lettuce-picking Guatemalan peasants you are all so terrified by.
 

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Mexico's benefit was to not have to pay tariffs.

And yes they are funding the wall, either way they would have been funding it, by tariffs, or by paying to deal with the migrant problem.
All of you are paying big fat tariffs on Chinese goods whether you realize it or not. I paid a sizeable Trump tariff last week on farm supplies that are #1 essential, and #2 only made in China. Thanks so much, Great Leader. Once he drives small farmers out of business with his idiotic trade policies, large corporate interests will then be able to swoop in and buy our country's farmland. Many of those interests are Chinese. Look at the pork section of the grocery store the next time you are there. Everything that is Smithfield is owned by the Chinese. They also get giant chunks of Trump's aid bailout money, too. Those are taxpayer dollars that are just handed straight to China. They are the ones invading us, not the lettuce-picking Guatemalan peasants you are all so terrified by.
Not sure what I would be paying Tarrifs on. Just bought my daughter her first car, a used American made Pontiac, for 5k cash. Didn’t see any tariffs in there. The price I paid was in alignment with other similar vehicles and KBB.

My friends from Texas were just in Illinois where I live. Husband wife and two sons own a cattle ranch in north Texas on the Oklahoma border. Ranch is worth 250k. No complaints about Trump from them, they are like me. Tired of liberals trying to destroy America. Maybe the tariff only effect crop farmers ? They only do cattle no corn, beans, produce, or anything else.. just cattle and a few oil wells on their land.
 

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All of you are paying big fat tariffs on Chinese goods whether you realize it or not. I paid a sizeable Trump tariff last week on farm supplies that are #1 essential, and #2 only made in China. Thanks so much, Great Leader. Once he drives small farmers out of business with his idiotic trade policies, large corporate interests will then be able to swoop in and buy our country's farmland. Many of those interests are Chinese. Look at the pork section of the grocery store the next time you are there. Everything that is Smithfield is owned by the Chinese. They also get giant chunks of Trump's aid bailout money, too. Those are taxpayer dollars that are just handed straight to China. They are the ones invading us, not the lettuce-picking Guatemalan peasants you are all so terrified by.
Thank you for funding your countrymen with that tariff, and for enticing business to stay in the US.

Now perhaps we can build those supplies here again, especially since they are so stragetically important.
 

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illegal immigrant crisis.
Fake news.

You've been hoodwinked.

You're always going to believe what Trump says, no matter what. You will remain obstinate and ignorant and alligient to your brand of politics, all the while bemoaning liberals. In your mind, liberals are evil because they oppose Trump, and fvuck all who oppose Trump.

In LL's mind, all should side with Trump (i.e. Americans should all think the same and be like Nazi Germany or North Korea).

So I don't trust anybody who's fiercely alligient to ANY one politician. I served my country because I WANT people to oppose and question. I WANT people to be able to burn the American flag. I WANT to live in a country that allows its citizens to refuse to honor the national anthem.

Here's a lesson for you: the TRUE "crisis" has everything to do with American corporations outsourcing jobs to Mexico and China (and countless other poor, corrupt nations). It has absolutely nothing to do with abject-impoverished men and women entering the USA looking for a job that might enable them to survive.

These "American" companies abandoned the USA in droves after NAFTA was signed into law by 34 "Republicans" and 27 "Democrats" (I strongly doubt you are able to truly define either term).

The owners and CEOs of said corporations are at the root of the crisis, in my opinion. They are the true terrorists.

I'd like to see men like Phil Knight tried and executed for crimes against humanity. Men like him are the ones who abandoned American factories for Chinese sweat shops. I have ZERO issues with poor Mexicans illegally entering the country looking for work (in my opinion most Mexicans work a helluva lot harder than Americans, by the way).

These corporations HATE the idea of a wall because they HATE American jobs because they HATE paying good wages to American workers.

Bullying Mexico with tariffs is no accomplishment. Mexico is a pathetic poor corrupt country that the USA already owns on a political and corporate level. The "agreement" on Mexico's part to help with the "immigration crisis" is a victory only for the rich and empowered few (i.e. the owners and CEOs of American corporations), who will continue to pay starvation wages and reap obscene profits.
 
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