Treating the BF or Husband worst than a stranger

[Ranger]

Sorry, 59 lol.
Not meaning to offend, but I’m being direct here and I know you are being direct with me.

I don’t think girfriends and wives treat strangers better than their spouses. Some probably do. Some men probably treat strangers better than their wives too.
Some people are like that. Not all though, and that’s the part that I’m not agreeing with. It seems like a blanket statement not really based on fact.

It also seems a bit like a dig to men who have girlfriends and wives.

If that’s shrek, then I’m fat and green I guess.

Um....2019 minus 1965 is 54/55 depending upon the birthdate.

All you had to do is say right up front that you don’t agree. But see it would be cute and would disqualify you immediately. Because these guys aren’t stupid. That’s why you didn’t. You took the thread to Alice in Wonderland instead.

 

[AJ84]

Um....2019 minus 1965 is 54/55 depending upon the birthdate.

All you had to do is say right up front that you don’t agree. But see it would be cute and would disqualify you immediately. Because these guys aren’t stupid. That’s why you didn’t. You took the thread to Alice in Wonderland instead.

I took the thread to Alice in wonderland? I’m not the one talking Spartans and 6000 yr warrior tribes.

Please, call me Shrek .

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Um....2019 minus 1965 is 54/55 depending upon the birthdate.

All you had to do is say right up front that you don’t agree. But see it would be cute and would disqualify you immediately. Because these guys aren’t stupid. That’s why you didn’t. You took the thread to Alice in Wonderland instead.

Plenty of men are single forever and have a friend or two they do things with over the years.

 

[Ranger]

If your not tied to her it doesnt matter. I was speaking on behalf of men in a relationship with one whose going against him.

I was in a relationship. So was @lamath we figured it out. I came out like a combat grunt on steroids.
We already know we are fully responsible for every single thing that happens to us. No matter what. I never blame another. I do not blame clients. I do not blame government. I blame no one. I refuse to be a little cvnt. That’s masculine.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I was in a relationship. So was @lamath we figured it out. I came out like a combat grunt on steroids.
We already know we are fully responsible for every single thing that happens to us. No matter what. I never blame another. I do not blame clients. I do not blame government. I blame no one. I refuse to be a little cvnt. That’s masculine.

It is. I was just saying sometimes you gotta throw her away. Accept responsibility for your choices.

 

[Ranger]

I took the thread to Alice in wonderland? I’m not the one talking Spartans and 6000 yr warrior tribes.

Please, call me Shrek .

Nope. I said don’t be a shrek. Spartans are history and Alice was a silly girl in a bad dream from crack.

 

[Ranger]

It is. I was just saying sometimes you gotta throw her away. Accept responsibility for your choices.

Good. Then talking about girl games and mental issues is useless. You own it either way. Fear is the mind killer. If you’re going to crash and burn, you might as well push the throttle all the way forward and go in on fire.

 

[Alvafe]

AJ84. Some wives do actively hate their husband and treat anyone better. They actually hate men but use them for various things. Its not all woman or most women but enough to be concerned. Our choices are crucial.

I do belive this is more for her own social proof then woman so much crave, she is nicer to people outside her family,because they need to like her to provide her something, when family, is already doing so, so she don't bother to make then like her, in her head they will provide for her, because you can notice one thing, woman who is not nice to husband are also not nice to her kids but anyother who in a certain way are giving her what she want, she is nice,

you know the sheep mentality right? pretty much is that, you can also notice these woman when notice they family who she don't treat as nice start to "stray", or spend less time or start to negate any of her wishes, she will start to act nicer to him to gain that favor she though would never lack.

I say this because my mom is a lot like this, and when I started to stop spending time with her and lowed the ammount of things I did to her, and even so make her do the whole process of asking for a favor in the right way, she started to respect me more and started to be nicer, because on that moment she started to see will not be idiot to do all her wishes, so she then started to gather my good will toward her

 

[Ranger]

I agree choices are crucial. Screening and disqualifying ASAP when those major red flags show.

I would like to tackle this head on. Keep in mind that there are tons of men who say this. Yours was just the closest.

I guess women really are stupid enough to display their ulterior, interior intent. Flunk.
Women are far more intuitive than that. If she wants in, she will read and enter with the appropriate solution. Men don’t pick up women. Women pick up men and let them think it was the man.
This advise of “red flags”, are done on purpose because you are looking for it and she doesn’t think all that highly of you.
From the very first second, she already had him packaged and sold. The game was not hers. She was just playing his game. She displays exactly what he wants to see.

Talking about red flags is of little or no value as she interacts differently with each man based on his frame/vibe.
If the man gets wrecked, it’s because he’s wreckable. It’s like seeing a house of cards and she is seeing how many cards she can take out before the whole house collapses.

Looking for red flags is NOT masculine.

 

[Ranger]

I asked you the most simple question possible on an assertion that I consider retarded. Seems more like invading your safe space.

Wasn't rude or personal with you, nor shall I be.

I could for an example ask why it took you 60 years (!) "to take the red pill" and confront some basic stuff that most of us do in early sexual maturity. And I could perhaps suggest that as a reason for being at such a silly stage in your reasoning especially at your age. But I won't.

You'll probably spend all day whinging, you'll defo repeat this thread several times over again, and i'll leave you to it.

Rando. I don’t answer to you. Not now. Not ever. This isn’t personal. You're in the way like a nest of rats.

 

[lamath]

AJ84. Some wives do actively hate their husband and treat anyone better. They actually hate men but use them for various things. Its not all woman or most women but enough to be concerned. Our choices are crucial.

This

Also lots of it happens behind close door.
What we see is social network happy but rl relationship is a war field.

 

[lamath]

I do belive this is more for her own social proof then woman so much crave, she is nicer to people outside her family,because they need to like her to provide her something, when family, is already doing so, so she don't bother to make then like her, in her head they will provide for her, because you can notice one thing, woman who is not nice to husband are also not nice to her kids but anyother who in a certain way are giving her what she want, she is nice,

you know the sheep mentality right? pretty much is that, you can also notice these woman when notice they family who she don't treat as nice start to "stray", or spend less time or start to negate any of her wishes, she will start to act nicer to him to gain that favor she though would never lack.

I say this because my mom is a lot like this, and when I started to stop spending time with her and lowed the ammount of things I did to her, and even so make her do the whole process of asking for a favor in the right way, she started to respect me more and started to be nicer, because on that moment she started to see will not be idiot to do all her wishes, so she then started to gather my good will toward her

good post an explanation.
Ive seem mom be mean to husband but very kind to kids however.

This stuff run both way some husband do the same.

 

[Ranger]

This

Also lots of it happens behind close door.
What we see is social network happy but rl relationship is a war field.

Yes. As it could be said that all relationships are work...it applies to every single one of them.

Carping vs. criticism

Carping is a random statement that is not flattering of someone, said to another person. So you are talking to this woman. Just random. She says “my boyfriend just keeps doing....yack, yack, yack”
Carping could be just general complaint about most anything.

Now why would she say something like that? Well she is reading you. It’s a qualifier. How you handle it is your business. Not mine.

Criticism is a flat out statement of devaluation. You are devaluing someone with the statement. It’s a communication, in our context, that has some serious ramifications.

First off men in a relationship with “love” involved, he’s highly unlikely to criticize her. The penalty for such things is withdrawal of intimacy. So this is primarily a female usage and tactic in this application.

How does her man become her pivot? It’s biology. When you drop your masculine markers for fitness, and you will to some degree in a relationship as it’s our biology. This biology we have of pair bonding and nesting with a particular women will literally change our endocrine system. That’s DNA genes turning off and others turning on. You will drop markers without even knowing it if your Y chromosome is weakened. (internalized Feminine theology and dogma)

so the chips are stacked against men with a weak Y chromosome disposition. What you do and what you think will turn off and turn on different genetic genome. If you go to work and sit on the couch daily your specific genome will run with that.

It has been proven that military infantrymen/combat arms personnel and pilots have elevated testosterone. Or guys that mountain climb or participate in x-games or jump out of planes will have much higher testosterone. We all know that working out also produces the same.
This is science.

The reverse is also true if you go the other way. The more docile and full daddy you go, the more your testosterone will drop. Your genes turn off and turn on as what you do dictates.

This is key. When your markers start dropping and you become more domesticated, your X chromosome starts to assert itself. Your genes obey and turn off or on.

How do you know when this happens? She starts carping. Carping about this or that. She is following her biology. She will carp to others about you. At this point she no longer has her masculine man. Or at best, he’s declining.

What you think also has a direct correlation to your genetic disposition. If you were raised by your mother or were eposed to a school with heavy socialistic imperatives in the curriculum, you will have more of an obstacle. Your mind is impregnated with how you should think about the world. How you should conform to the dictates of the world. What you should do etc. it’s quite sinister. Even if you had a great masculine father.
It makes your life as a man readable with markers that ooze feminine. Basically you were fukked over.

When I get some more time, I will communicate what happens when it goes from carping to criticism. There’s an exact sequence.

 

[Ranger]

When you become a pivot, it is not Hypergamy. I’m not a fan of the word Hypergamy as it limits the usage to a woman just trading up. This does happen of course but what im talking about is something different that is especially prevalent in the idea of civilization. It existed way before.

A leader gets into a pickle and makes the wrong call. The tribe sees it and observes that his leadership marker has dropped. The leader becomes despondent or even outright defensive. Another marker drops. Well...his pvssy supply is about to drop now. Her biology regulates her sexual preferences and desires.
When you are a pivot she is biologically primed to put your sperm under competition. This does not mean she will act on it. It’s just a biological response to you dropping your fitness markers. She no longer wants to have sex with you as much.

Putting your sperm under competition is not Hypergamy.

 

[Alvafe]

good post an explanation.
Ive seem mom be mean to husband but very kind to kids however.

This stuff run both way some husband do the same.

that is the problem outside she will be nice, alone or she will ignore or just keep ordering the kid around telling him to do things for her, then when someone is close she is nicer, remeber that moments when a mom tell her kid do something and he says no, when there is someone close by, you will notice she looking at him furious but will not do anything, but when they are alone, being a good mom is also a social proof validation, woman sell the image she want, not what she is

 

[lamath]

When you become a pivot, it is not Hypergamy. I’m not a fan of the word Hypergamy as it limits the usage to a woman just trading up. This does happen of course but what im talking about is something different that is especially prevalent in the idea of civilization. It existed way before.

A leader gets into a pickle and makes the wrong call. The tribe sees it and observes that his leadership marker has dropped. The leader becomes despondent or even outright defensive. Another markers drops. Well...his pvssy supply is about to drop now. Her biology regulates her sexual preferences and desires.
When you are a pivot she is biologically primed to put your sperm under competition. This does not mean she will act on it. It’s just a biological response to you dropping your fitness markers. She no longer wants to have sex with you as much.

Putting your sperm under competition is not Hypergamy.

This does make sense, it a bit like a successful business man that gets into a rut and things at work gets bad and then the same happens in his relationship even if living standard of family are unchanged, respect is lost.
Its not always like that but it is something that happens often.

imo its about losing in social standing.

 

[Ranger]

This does make sense, it a bit like a successful business man that gets into a rut and things at work gets bad and then the same happens in his relationship even if living standard of family are unchanged, respect is lost.
Its not always like that but it is something that happens often.

imo its about losing in social standing.

It can be but it would also apply within the walls of his home more often.

Part of that goes back to The Red Queen in context. There a lot of observation in that as I watched relationships crumble.

I remember when I got back from my first deployment with 3/3. 2/3 was shipping out. As soon as they did, the very next night the bars were flooded with 2/3 wives. It turned into a fukfest behind the scenes. I was single and was speechless.

 

[Ranger]

When a man takes on the responsibility of a wife of even a boyfriend headed for an LTR, his biology changes. He operates in a different mode. This is measurable with simple serum blood tests.

This means certain genes have turned off and others are turning on. It is inevitable that your masculine markers will drop to a degree. Children and your new drive to make sure they don’t starve or come to harm also has a measurable effect.
We are biologically wired to ensure women and children don’t starve or come to harm.
Thus...the white knight phenomena and the protective father who works his fingers and body to the bone. Always struggling to keep up. (That’s a different subject in itself)

Now compound that with the evidence of degrading Y chromosome and them stack it with a femcentric society and it’s programmimg and you have a sad state of affairs for both men and women. Women get a whole bunch of worthless girls with diks who they can’t feel anything for except disgust. So they also loose.

With your markers down, you get more than your share of dibilitating controls used on you without any malice towards you. She is checking to see if you are still the leader. To see if you still have that marker. She is utterly oblivious to many of her actions. In fact if you call her on some of them, she will truly not understand. After all, in her femcentric world...that’s how things work. Don’t they?

Intimacy isn’t all about sex. If you don’t hold and cuddle a new born baby, it will get sick and even die if it doesn’t receive intimacy from someone. Your sex doesn’t matter to that baby. Neglect is pretty damaging because it withholds intimacy.

So what do you think a woman’s most ruthless and deadliest weapon is? And it’s not sex.

Now if your markers are blatantly down, you WILL become a target. And you deserve it. Here is an example of your markers being down...

 

[Spaz]

You as a man must be able to sell ur version of the world to her and her buying into it to be able to sustain a long relationship.

Call it ur version of love.

It's like a storybook of sorts, the pitfalls, the dramas, the adventures, etc etc.

Create it, empower her as ur partner with you the CEO and managing director.

There must be greatness within a man to sustain a woman's admiration because once that's lost, respect is gone and so will ur leadership.

 

[Ranger]

You as a man must be able to sell ur version of the world to her and her buying into it to be able to sustain a long relationship.

Call it ur version of love.

It's like a storybook of sorts, the pitfalls, the dramas, the adventures, etc etc.

Create it, empower her as ur partner with you the CEO and managing director.

There must be greatness within a man to sustain a woman's admiration because once that's lost, respect is gone and so will ur leadership.

Oh absolutely. Empowering her is critical for sure.