Toxic masculinity

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I am not training my son to make better choices with women’s charachter. What does that even mean. Who says her charachter isn’t correct for survival in a particular situation?

I just don’t get the “charachter” part. I’ve really tried to see it. Who dictates what’s charachter and what isn’t? If you live or die effects no woman anywhere on the planet except those who love you in your family.
Only a man has integrity, honor, creativity etc at the depth required for understanding. did somebody tell you to apply the charachteristics of men to women?
Who would do such a thing?
There are still choices. There are 16 main personality types. Im going to bed.
 

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I like how he turns the question into telling a story about his cute granddaughter playing toddler games and entertains everyone with that story for quite a while. Then when the chick asks him how that has anything to do with toxic masculinity he's basically like: "Oh that doesn't really exist, you can't even define it."
He could've said that straight away haha.
He's no dummy. He knows this drives toxic women nuts.
 

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The only real buttress towards all these is focusing on you.

Working and adding on traits that makes you greater as time passes.

And then passing it on to other men as a form of mentorship.

Focusing on women and their "toxicity" does nothing to assist you towards being greater then before. It's a sure fire way of making a man sink further in a quagmire of his own making.
Focusing on their toxicity is victim think. Eject any albatross from your circle
 
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Tell that to the victims of US and European foreign policy.

Murder is not exclusively a socialist endeavour. Look at the millions killed in Vietnam. Mostly in the defence of capitalism. The country was 90% or thereabouts behind Ho Chi Minh. The US backed a corrupt war lord in the south and stuck it’s nose in where it shouldn’t have been and killed millions of people, in the pursuit of the destruction of socialism. So, with respect, I think your views are the same views which legitimised and funded that war, and ironically were,
in that conflict, responsible for murder more than socialism was.

Not being a socialist, and generally being in opposition to socialism, it feels strange to be defending it. It is certainly number one, two and three in terms of murder. I don’t think you can equate it directly to murder though. A hell of a lot of people are killed in the defence of western values.
 

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Tell that to the victims of US and European foreign policy.

Murder is not exclusively a socialist endeavour. Look at the millions killed in Vietnam. Mostly in the defence of capitalism. The country was 90% or thereabouts behind Ho Chi Minh. The US backed a corrupt war lord in the south and stuck it’s nose in where it shouldn’t have been and killed millions of people, in the pursuit of the destruction of socialism. So, with respect, I think your views are the same views which legitimised and funded that war, and ironically were,
in that conflict, responsible for murder more than socialism was.

Not being a socialist, and generally being in opposition to socialism, it feels strange to be defending it. It is certainly number one, two and three in terms of murder. I don’t think you can equate it directly to murder though. A hell of a lot of people are killed in the defence of western values.
vietnam war killed millions? hey I agree vietnam was a dumb war who make US look even more dumb, but the damage done on water sources on vietnam really damned the country, but saying vietnam killed more then socialism..... venezuela is kinda there to tell you
 

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vietnam war killed millions? hey I agree vietnam was a dumb war who make US look even more dumb, but the damage done on water sources on vietnam really damned the country, but saying vietnam killed more then socialism..... venezuela is kinda there to tell you
Yes, I agree. Socialist governance has delivered worse results than anything else. However, take a look at US and European foreign policy in the last 200 years. The US has been bombing and subjugating countries for decades. An opponent of free market economics could point to that quite validly and demonstrate how corporate greed is killing hundreds of thousands, if not millions.

What were the Iraq and Afghanistan wars about? Freedom? Don’t make me laugh.

On the other hand, the Bosnian intervention saved a lot of lives. Some credit has to be given there.

The point I was making is you can’t equate someone with left wing views as being complicit in murder. They are misguided. In many ways, some elements of socialist policy has added to the strength of western democracy. Indeed, conscription to the army is a completely statist concept and a true libertarian would not consider that. The law in the US also does not appear in any way geared towards personal freedoms. Perhaps more so with speech, but look at how big the prison population is, and how brutal the conditions are.

No socialist countries have had foreign policy even remotely as aggressive as the US. Not even the Soviet Union. You have to hand it to them, they are much better at respecting other nations but extremely good at murdering their own.
 

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Yes, I agree. Socialist governance has delivered worse results than anything else. However, take a look at US and European foreign policy in the last 200 years. The US has been bombing and subjugating countries for decades. An opponent of free market economics could point to that quite validly and demonstrate how corporate greed is killing hundreds of thousands, if not millions.

What were the Iraq and Afghanistan wars about? Freedom? Don’t make me laugh.

On the other hand, the Bosnian intervention saved a lot of lives. Some credit has to be given there.

The point I was making is you can’t equate someone with left wing views as being complicit in murder. They are misguided. In many ways, some elements of socialist policy has added to the strength of western democracy. Indeed, conscription to the army is a completely statist concept and a true libertarian would not consider that. The law in the US also does not appear in any way geared towards personal freedoms. Perhaps more so with speech, but look at how big the prison population is, and how brutal the conditions are.

No socialist countries have had foreign policy even remotely as aggressive as the US. Not even the Soviet Union. You have to hand it to them, they are much better at respecting other nations but extremely good at murdering their own.
Capitalism is not the cause of foreign wars.

Politicians available for sale is what caused it, along with our fiat monetary system where we have to borrow ever more money to avoid depression.
 

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Capitalism is not the cause of foreign wars.

Politicians available for sale is what caused it, along with our fiat monetary system where we have to borrow ever more money to avoid depression.
Putting on the socialist hat:

“Yes, but it’s the unintentional consequences of capitalism”

Does socialism actually prescribe murder or is it an unintended consequence?

Socialists always say “aha, that’s not REAL socialism”

Perhaps we are saying “aha, it’s not REAL capitalism”

Just playing devils advocate. As far as I am concerned the system is largely irrelevant. Human greed always exists. It’s just a capitalist system has slightly better checks and balances to control it
 

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Putting on the socialist hat:

“Yes, but it’s the unintentional consequences of capitalism”

Does socialism actually prescribe murder or is it an unintended consequence?

Socialists always say “aha, that’s not REAL socialism”

Perhaps we are saying “aha, it’s not REAL capitalism”

Just playing devils advocate. As far as I am concerned the system is largely irrelevant. Human greed always exists. It’s just a capitalist system has slightly better checks and balances to control it

Not at all.

The federal reserve system exists and can exist in both capitalist and socialist countries. It has nothing to do with capitalism.

Politicians being for sale has the same ruleset.
 

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Putting on the socialist hat:

“Yes, but it’s the unintentional consequences of capitalism”

Does socialism actually prescribe murder or is it an unintended consequence?

Socialists always say “aha, that’s not REAL socialism”

Perhaps we are saying “aha, it’s not REAL capitalism”

Just playing devils advocate. As far as I am concerned the system is largely irrelevant. Human greed always exists. It’s just a capitalist system has slightly better checks and balances to control it
since most socialism try to curb freedom and ignore human nature, in a utopian thinking, yes, the problem with socialism is if you think it in a cold logical way it do make sense its a moral way to help these in need, these sory souls who have nothing to eat and have nothing, but then you are ignoring they own responsability for that, why certain places are the way they are? why most countrys are at war? why would someone put effort in something when the reward would be the same as no effort?

people say greed is bad, but that is a way to motivate people, why someone would go after a painfull thing if not for his gain? capitalisma never sold the moral way, capitalism works better because it let you try to get a reward for your effort, socialism says you need to mind yourself obey the goverment and work, but then socialism makes thing go stale because no one will say something or inprove something, since he will not be rewarded
 
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Wow...those two above ads, I feel for the guy with Down Syndrome. I hope he keeps the makeup to just shows and clubs he goes to/ I'd hate to see him get beat up over his choice to enjoy his life.

On the other ad, for Gillette...can you image me (a short guy- 5'6) and decent looking, getting praise as much as this oversize woman?
I just don't understand. If a man was that overweight, would he get praise from women? Nope.

As for my height, I got a surprising compliment from a lady in an Adult Club recently, she asked me "why are you here? You're too good looking to be here...as if strip clubs were for unattractive men. I told her that because I am "vertically challenged", it isn't easy to find a quality woman to accept me. And for most of 54 years at that. She seemed a bit surprised, then said yeah I guess maybe it might be a problem...

I thought many of the guys in the club were decent looking, actually. The question really surprised me. Wtf?
 

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You may not be aware but you are subtly channeling the feminine imperative.

Women commit crimes on a more societal level than an individual level. But they are no less lawless or crimes against humanity.

Metoo movement?
Believe women movement?
Title 9?
Abortion?
Cuckoldry?
False accusations against men?
Socialism?
Special rights?
The main problem is men are called out and often held accountable for toxic behavior and women are not. Today society is like the mirror image of if we lived in a time when men could just rape women willy nilly and have little to no consequences. Their is no gender equality and it's immoral and unfair to afford women priveleges that are traditionally male priveleges.
 

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Wow...those two above ads, I feel for the guy with Down Syndrome. I hope he keeps the makeup to just shows and clubs he goes to/ I'd hate to see him get beat up over his choice to enjoy his life.

On the other ad, for Gillette...can you image me (a short guy- 5'6) and decent looking, getting praise as much as this oversize woman?
I just don't understand. If a man was that overweight, would he get praise from women? Nope.

As for my height, I got a surprising compliment from a lady in an Adult Club recently, she asked me "why are you here? You're too good looking to be here...as if strip clubs were for unattractive men. I told her that because I am "vertically challenged", it isn't easy to find a quality woman to accept me. And for most of 54 years at that. She seemed a bit surprised, then said yeah I guess maybe it might be a problem...

I thought many of the guys in the club were decent looking, actually. The question really surprised me. Wtf?
It's how you create society of slaves and pool of average people ready to be used. Generally speaking it's good that men are not supported in any way in media - this way pool of average men will be enlarged and there will be enough quality females for free-thinking men available (free-thinkers don't need any reassurance, they know when media lie to them), society needs more betachumps, there's always too many alphas or wannabe alphas and always not enough betas.

Some of you perhaps will understand why.

WARRIOR MINDSET:
TRUTH: Is painful to deal with yet accepted (I know my limits yet I'm ready to fight against the odds, always)
STRENGHT: requires work, patience, cannot be faked, it's better to pretend to be weak than to pretend to be strong
DISCIPLINE: requires practice, cannot be faked
BEING EXCEPTIONAL: requires hard work often in multiple fields
PROFICIENCY: real, through hard work, intelligence, intuition, mixing knowledge with your natural spark, being curious about life whole time
FAMILY: requires your service, you serve for your family needs (I'm ok with that I just need to find very attractive female to have family), you need to require abundance of resources for each child

SERVANT MINDSET:
TRUTH: too hard to deal with, choose comfortable values (LIES)
STRENGHT: is useless, people should mostly support each other, sometimes its good to pretend to be strong, why would I event want to pretend weakness lol?
DISCIPLINE: I've 500 hours of my favoured activity performed in the last 3 months, what's your problem mark?
BEING EXCEPTIONAL: you are exceptional because you are yourself, promoting fake image of yourself on social media (fb, instagram/utter bull.s.hit)
PROFICIENCY: low to average level or fake high level; create fake image of yourself to convince others that you have power while you have none (fat uneducated coaches speaking about being disciplined hard worker)
FAMILY: you don't need one, you are too unique to have family or even think about it (trust me on this one dear obedient servant, you really are not that unique, even warriors are not unique, they are just smarter than you are) OR you need many, but provide them with very limited support (they are designed bottom-feeders this way from the start)
 
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