"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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guppyscum

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Hi guys,

Interested to hear your thoughts on this, whether you're for or against it for whatever reasons. I was lying on the beach this weekend and my girl whipped her top off as usual, however asked me if it was appropriate as it was a family style beach. I said whatever makes you happy..

She then went then she went for a swim, and put her top on. Our culture is bizarre than laying on the beach is ok to go topless, but going for a swim (where you think it would be more private) you need to wear a bikini top.. Made me laugh at the oddness of it all.

She always get's quite worked up after a day of topless sunbathing - there's definitely an erotic / exhibitionist element to it whether they admit it or not I feel.

I dated a girl a few years back that went topless on the beach the first time i met her parents. She was rubbing oil over her breasts while her dad sat next to her - a bit uncomfortable and a few conflicting feelings! She was a bit out there though I have to say..

Anyway, interested to hear others musings or thoughts on the issue.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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TheBucketOfTruth

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They're just breasts. We're far too up tight about the human body. So what if some children see breasts? We all see breasts from quite a young age.
 

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I personally don't want other males seeing my girl's tits. But to each his own I guess.
 

spider_007

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reminds me of people that have issues with breast feeding babys in public....
yea, our society is ****ed up...
 

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growing up in europe, topless sunbathing and thongs were the norm... at the local open-air pool, let alone beaches. I was quite shocked when i moved across the pond and realized that in the US you can get a citation for either one.

Anyone who is against it is way too uptight (or gay).
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Mike32ct

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Showing most of the breast is apparently ok. But if the bare nipples show, then you can get into trouble.

Men can go topless and show our (dummy) nipples. But if women's nipples are shown in the US, it's illegal. I don't get it. I don't see what the big deal is.
 

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drak_ool said:
Anyone who is against it is way too uptight (or gay).
Just because you're too stupid to come up with other possible explanations doesn't mean those are the only two.
 

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Back in my college days one summer, I went on a big tour of Europe (one where everyone gets around on a bus.) Our group hit a few beach places, most notable Club Med in Greece. On the beach all the women were topless :cool: except for the (American) women in our group, who all left their top on. :down:
 

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I was quite shocked when i moved across the pond and realized that in the US you can get a citation for either one.
Yeah, it is a little ridiculous. But to be honest, I don't personally know of any woman who has received a citation for baring her breasts. And there has been a lot of breast baring. I'm sure we all know a few girls who will flash their boobs when they get a little drunk. I think most cops will tend to look the other way (or more accurately, look that way).

On the other hand, I do know several guys who were arrested for indecent exposure because they had to stop and pee by a tree or something. Really, I think that is just as silly.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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