Top tier guys

[Cheeky_James]

Not superficial women who focus only on "looks, money, status" or who respond positively to games...ugh. Such women have their own game and won't hesitate to play it with YOU. Good luck with that. Water attracts its own level.

lol at this.
ALL women have their own game mate.
Women are the sexual selectors .
They control the Game.

If a guy doesn’t have the Looks. He doesn’t get to find out , or try play the game at all.

This is the classic female frame towards men;

“ be honest with me, don’t try to play a game to me or lie to me or I’ll know. Be honest . vunerable , open up there and let me see what’s under the hood.
And just let me play MY game on YOU.”



and this 2nd part is agreeing me btw

Just one thing to add to @Cheeky_James .

After you asked, I shared with you via DM how my ((VERY HANDSOME)) boyfriend approached me at the party. You admitted it was pretty cool! Very natural and organic.

He displayed interest, I displayed interest

Just be real.

So reading what you just said the game with women can be Boiled down to

(A) Be as great Looking as possible and get Attraction (the make or break step)
(B) Approach and open
(C) display real interest and real intent (sexual)
(D) maintain being ‘real’ and flirt
(E) escalate and close

so what are all y’all saying about all this other Self Improvement again???

lol.

yes so the logical follow on is - just focus on Looksmaxxing. Mainly. And then approaching.

No need to personalityMaxx . Cos it doesn’t matter as much, it’s a much, much lesser slice of the pie. As I’ve been saying. Work on projecting sexuality after the open and showing real interest in the woman. ( this is a real problem for guys) that’s not really ‘personality ‘ btw - it’s a primal thing. Showing desire , shamelessly.

So thank you for getting there and agreeing with me.
High Five!

 

[Sega Genesis]

You're cherry picking my posts CJ, focusing only on the things I've said that support your argument, in some instances twisting my words, adding your own narrative. And disregarding things I've said that don't. Which is fine, par for the course. Lol

so what were you saying about all this other Self Improvement again???

I never mentioned self-improvement. My posts focused on the natural "chemistry/energy" happening between two people and how looks play a role in that albeit subjectively. Which apparently you don't understand or experienced so it may have been a mistake to even bring it up.

Not to mention this is a seduction forum. So yeah in retrospect I should not have mentioned it..

I will leave it there and allow you the last word, that seems important to you.

All the best man.

 

[Cheeky_James]

You're cherry picking my posts CJ, focusing only on the things I've said that support your argument, in some instances twisting my words, adding your own narrative. And disregarding things I've said that don't. Which is fine, par for the course. Lol



I never mentioned self-improvement. My posts focused on the natural "chemistry/energy" happening between two people and how looks play a role in that. Which apparently you don't understand or experienced so it may have been a mistake to even bring it up.

Not to mention this is a seduction forum. So yeah in retrospect I should not have mentioned it..

I will leave it there and allow you the last word, that seems important to you.

All the best man.

I edited my post quickly after posting.
Pls re-read.
I thought I was replying to BeExcellent as I was writing that out. lol. (I’m always getting my women mixed up ! lol)

not cherry picking or twisting. Just tryna boil it down SG. To what’s really happening in a pickup between a man and a woman.
Boil it down to ‘Best Strategies & Practices’ and stages, step by step.

BECAUSE… this is how ALL my pickups have basically gone down. I do that same process over and over and over again. Trust and believe !

just thought it might help other guys too . Yknow. Might be useful.

And lol at the chemistry/energy thing related to Looks. Yes I know exactly how that works babe. Cos I’m pretty good looking.
And that’s what I’m saying here. Over and over.
Chemistry is created by Looks. (In the first instance , which leads to more chemistry in the following instance )

And if the chemistry ain’t there. It’s over. The guy is toast.

and don’t leave it there pls! I have something else for you and BE. A fun challenge …

 

[The Duke]

If it's all about looks then explain how a girl becomes attracted to a guy that isn't very attractive? It happens quite often.

 

[BaronOfHair]

If it's all about looks then explain how a girl becomes attracted to a guy that isn't very attractive? It happens quite often.

We remain content to ignore that women's perceptions of male beauty can be highly idiosyncratic. The fact that Lip Gallagher from Shameless has fashioned himself into Calvin Klein underwear model

, has billions of gals who are desperate to spread their legs to him, is testament to this

By contrast, there's no human reality in which Beverly Mitchell can be transformed into a sexpot on par with Jessica Biel

 

[Cheeky_James]

If it's all about looks then explain how a girl becomes attracted to a guy that isn't very attractive? It happens quite often.

that’s as broad a statement as it gets.
there’s zero context in that sentence.

He may have money or. status
He may have came first /first bf in teenage years.

They both may be equally unattractive objectively.
He may be short bald and skinny. She fat and old.

and what age bracket ? 20s 30s 40s etc..

For example someone here said they discovered things in their 50s about looks being relative.
Dating in the 50s bracket. For sure it’s less important, then.

looks become less important and men get older and move through the brackets. The market changes and women comprimise more and more is the reality. Money comes into it more, lifestyle, a more reliable dependable solid guy. Father material , Step Dad material etc. and don’t forget desperate women either.

a lot of advice here is sweeping, without any specifics or context as to who the poster is. His stats, age, location, money etc

There’s a lot of variables out there IRL as per above examples. And of course there are exceptions too. But the exception proves the rule as they say.

I’m not saying an average looking guy can’t get a woman.

I’m saying for women looks and physical chemistry is a paramount factor for sleeping with a guy fast.
So if any guy is an actual ‘Don Juan’, he always has high looks - not some magic personality or other elements to his ‘game’.

and also Looks are paramount in the earlier brackets too . Definitely in the competition of teens and 20s. Where it’s most obvious.
It’s easily observable then that couples are looksmatched/smv matched in those eras. And status too is a big factor also in those eras.

That’s all I’m saying really.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

that’s as broad a statement as it gets.
there’s zero context in that sentence.

He may have money or. status
He may have came first /first bf in teenage years.

They both may be equally unattractive objectively.
He may be short bald and skinny. She fat and old.

and what age bracket ? 20s 30s 40s etc..

For example someone here said they discovered things in their 50s about looks being relative.
Dating in the 50s bracket. For sure it’s less important, then.

looks become less important and men get older and move through the brackets. The market changes and women comprimise more and more is the reality. Money comes into it more, lifestyle, a more reliable dependable solid guy. Father material , Step Dad material etc. and don’t forget desperate women either.

a lot of advice here is sweeping, without any specifics or context as to who the poster is. His stats, age, location, money etc

There’s endless variables and variations out there IRL as per above examples.

I’m not saying an average looking guy can’t get a woman.

I’m saying for women looks and physical chemistry is a paramount factor for sleeping with a guy fast.
So if any guy is an actual ‘Don Juan’, he always has high looks - not some magic personality or other elements to his ‘game’.

and also Looks are paramount in the earlier brackets too . Definitely in the competition of teens and 20s. Where it’s most obvious.
It’s easily observable then that couples are looksmatched/smv matched in those eras.

That’s all I’m saying really.

Or your entire premise might be wrong which you seem incapable of considering.

Your arguments continue to be from a place of twist things to fit your mental version of reality instead of actual reality.

 

[Cheeky_James]

Or your entire premise might be wrong which you seem incapable of considering.

Your arguments continue to be from a place of twist things to fit your mental version of reality instead of actual reality.

what do you mean? I have plenty of experience and evidence of reality. Do you?

Edit; and the evidence is all around you IRL.
I’ve been pointing it out over and over on this thread.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

what do you mean? I have plenty of experience and evidence of reality. Do you?

Edit; and the evidence is all around you IRL.
I’ve been pointing it out over and over on this thread.

No you've been pointing out what you find on YouTube and social media. Which is about as far from reality as you can get.

 

[BaronOfHair]

a lot of advice here is sweeping, without any specifics or context as to who the poster is

Reference that visual example provided earlier in this thread https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/top-tier-guys.286804/page-2#post-3201578

To this day, fans of that series/even casual viewers deem Guy 1 more sexy and desirable than Guy 2, even though the latter is in many respects the more conventionally handsome. Looks are of limited value, on a man devoid of swagger and animal magnetism

 

[Gamisch]

Bro getting cooked in his own thread

Vigorously living through his homies or via celebrities like Richard fecking Gere.

Nobody, not even OP himself knows anymore what the exact goal of this thread seems to be...

 

[Divorced w 3]

Bro getting cooked in his own thread

Vigorously living through his homies or via celebrities like Richard fecking Gere.

Nobody, not even OP himself knows anymore what the exact goal of this thread seems to be...

Didn't Gere put gerbils up his butt? At least that was the rumor. It would really fit the theme of what's going on in this thread.

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[BaronOfHair]

Bro getting cooked in his own thread

Vigorously living through his homies or via celebrities like Richard fecking Gere.

Nobody, not even OP himself knows anymore what the exact goal of this thread seems to be...

"Solutions" to many of life's difficulties are conceptually simple, albeit not easy to execute in practice. Discussions such as this one are similar to urging folks who aren't getting further ahead in their careers to go read The Leadership Challenge, then do everything Kountzes and Posner instruct in those pages

Those who are in the most need of such guidance are the very same crowd likely to retort "But, Late Stage Capitalism/Wealth Inequality/Systems Of Power", then spend the next 3 hours watching Nerdrotic gripe over whatever Disney is doing these days

 

[Cheeky_James]

We remain content to ignore that women's perceptions of male beauty can be highly idiosyncratic. The fact that Lip Gallagher from Shameless has fashioned himself into Calvin Klein underwear model

, has billions of gals who are desperate to spread their legs to him, is testament to this

By contrast, there's no human reality in which Beverly Mitchell can be transformed into a sexpot on par with Jessica Biel

duuude. You are still stuck firmly in CopeTown.
That guy looks Tall and has an Adonis fvcking body bro. A 10/10 body. There is no gym for your height man sorry to tell ya. And his face.. fvcking hell .. he looks like Timothy Chalamet .
Yeah what an ugly dude

@Gamisch - the point was in my OP. You guys are UNDER-rating other guys Looks. And downplaying how much their Looks played as the primary factor in the women they got with. And also doing that IRL also obviously by rational and logical extension.

since then it’s become a debate of how much % of the pie Looks account for vs “game’ in getting women.
Has become a Pile On since tbh.
Loud doesn’t mean right lads!. I can keep posting evidence….. happy to continue. For now.

@BackInTheGame78 so you’re saying Social Media is not a reflection of reality now??
Fvcking hell lads… you are all coping so hard here on SoSuave…

 

[Cheeky_James]

Robert Greene
“The story of the greatest seducer I ever personally met .. he was Tall.. and *incredibly* Handsome..but then I realised his Secret…”

Robert don’t say it .. please bro..
don’t tell me he was hung like Rocco Siffredi as well.
I can’t handle any more bad news bro..

“Todo beng, ladies .. My name is Chadiego HardRod, I am from Brazil.”

Game over man.
Game over…!!

 

[BaronOfHair]

duuude. You are still stuck firmly in CopeTown.
That guy looks Tall and has an Adonis fvcking body bro. A 10/10 body. There is no gym for your height man sorry to tell ya

Yeah, it's impossible for most men to bulk themselves up(by extension, gain a more defined and stronger jaw) + Learn to dress taller the way a 5'7-5'8 Jeremy Alan White has, thus become more attractive. You've succeeded at "being right", rather than actually acquiring the wisdom necessary to get your needs and desires met, OP

You can now die happier than Arnold Rothstein did back in '28, when he similarly chose to not admit: "My poker playing has been sh-t-y of late", insisted on laying responsibility for his misfortune on the game allegedly being rigged

 

[Cheeky_James]

Yeah, it's impossible for most men to bulk themselves up(by extension, gain a more defined and stronger jaw), learn to dress taller the way a 5'7-5'8 Jeremy Alan White has, and thus become more attractive. You've succeeded at "being right", rather than actually acquiring the wisdom necessary to get your needs and desires met, OP

You can now leave the planet happier than Arnold Rothstein did back in '28, when he similarly chose to not admit: "My poker playing has been sh-t-y of late", insisted on laying responsibility for his misfortune on the game allegedly being rigged

hes 5’7- 5’8 ? Didn’t see that coming tbh.
Fair point .
but seriously - how much time does he spend in the gym with top LA trainers dude?
That’s ALL-OUT body building bro.
sure, actors can do that.
Hugh Jackman did it and the rest.

plus, he has a face like Chalamet obs. And great hair . Like I said.

 

[BaronOfHair]

hes 5’7- 5’8 ? Didn’t see that coming tbh.
Fair point

Here's another Fair Point, hoss...

Your current mindset is similar to what's eviscerated here https://www.actingcoachscotland.co.uk/blog/i-cant-become-actor , only applied to dating and mating

Be the DJ equivalent of Michael Balogun(A convicted felon who got no further than 8th grade, now one of the few non-white RADA grads in that institution's history. Who's booking roles on several high-profile projects, in BOTH The UK and Hollywood), instead of one of the millions who groans about Nepo Babies "stealing" all the plum roles these days

You're apparently not a dead ringer for M.B. Jordan or Jason Lewis during his tenure on Sex And The City, great... That's no impediment to getting more fit than you are now, getting a fresher/more stylish haircut, revamping your wardrobe into something niftier than it is now, etc etc

 

[Cheeky_James]

@BaronOfHair

. That's no impediment to getting more fit than you are now, getting a fresher/more stylish haircut, revamping your wardrobe into something niftier than it is now, etc etc

Which all falls under the strategy of LOOKSMAXXING fvcknard.
which I have been advocating for as the main strategy this whole thread. Cos that’s what it’s all about. That’s pretty much 90% of the game.

Maybe try keep up with the thread ya fvcking dumbass.

 

[Cheeky_James]

Tbh giving every member here the automatic title of ‘Don Juan’ on this forum is a misnomer and a bum steer.
Cos obvs most of you guys ain’t no Don Juan’s.
Fvcking 10 chicks as a mix of LTRs and a few ONS /casual or somesh1t .. doesn’t make a guy a fvcking “Don Juan”.
Especially if they are all ugly or old washed up pvssy.

THATS the real issue.
It’s pretty much impossible to sort the wheat from the chaff around here.

What a joke.