ER!C L!VE
Master Don Juan
:cheer: :cheer:Originally posted by Oblivious
You're doing awesome!
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
:cheer: :cheer:Originally posted by Oblivious
You're doing awesome!
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Give it 5 years. Then you'll be gagging for old fogies like us as you madly put on the wrinkle cream.Originally posted by Oblivious
As a younger woman, I must say that I wouldn't give you old foogies the time of day. You act as juvenile as any 25 year old or younger that I know. If you guys were worth what you thought you were, you wouldn't still be single prying on young butt.
But it doesn't seem like you guys are looking for much substance anyway, but just pure sleeze. And if thats your bag, then GOOD for you. You're doing awesome! But grow up! I guess some guys never do.
nice username, seems appropriate! you sound a tad bitter, jaded, and icy.Originally posted by Oblivious
As a younger woman, I must say that I wouldn't give you old foogies the time of day. You act as juvenile as any 25 year old or younger that I know. If you guys were worth what you thought you were, you wouldn't still be single prying on young butt.
But it doesn't seem like you guys are looking for much substance anyway, but just pure sleeze. And if thats your bag, then GOOD for you. You're doing awesome! But grow up! I guess some guys never do.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
then get lost. seriously, what the hell are you here for? to try to set us sleezy old men "straight"? to try to teach us about women?Originally posted by Oblivious
There's living proof on this forum.
Is it just me or does someone sound a bit bitter for some strange reason?Originally posted by Oblivious
Doubt it! I'm not saying I wouldn't date an old man. But I wouldn't date an old man with the maturity of a ten year old. To me it seems like the old men seeking out the younger girls. We just decide to give them the time of day if we so desire. I see alot of ads from old men seeking out women to be their Sugar Daddies. One ad I saw, this dude said he would give a chick $3000 allowance a month and dall she had to do was visit him in NYC once or twice a month. Sounds like a desperate old man to me. Cause he wasted his youth trying to play the field. Sad!
But I am sure that there are some older men out there who have a lot to offer, mature and are worth the time of day cause they no longer need to post on dating forums. Age doesn't men you are mature. There's living proof on this forum.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
we will. now shut your pie hole and think about making an appointment with PerfectPaws for that chump you're gonna get from eharmony.Originally posted by Oblivious
What a totally obvious way of trying to detract the truth. Denial isn't a good look. But believe what you want.
speaking from experience, i have never found this to be the case as of yet, on pay sites. why would someone pay 20 bucks a month to put up a fake profile?Originally posted by picard
All the online dating sites have fake women profiles. There are only some actual real women. I tried different sites such as yahoo, laval life etc... I now sign on to brick & motar dating agency. They find me real flesh & blood woman instead of cyberchick.![]()
Same reason why 99% of people do business on the internet-- to sell pornography to creepy old men. But I agree with you to a point, these are more prevalent on the "adult" dating sites like AFF. You're probably not going to find too much of this sh1t on match or yahoo or anything like that.Originally posted by TooColdUlrick
speaking from experience, i have never found this to be the case as of yet, on pay sites. why would someone pay 20 bucks a month to put up a fake profile?
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
There are tons of reasons why there are many "fake" or dead profiles:Originally posted by TooColdUlrick
speaking from experience, i have never found this to be the case as of yet, on pay sites. why would someone pay 20 bucks a month to put up a fake profile?
Are you serious? Do you know this for a fact or just speculation?Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
FYI guys, those fake posts are occasionally placed by employees of the site for the sake of allowing AFCs the feeling that there is someone on the site that they may have a chance with.
AFF and Erocity are famous for doing this. i seriously doubt that match and yahoo would do such a thing. way too risky, esp. for the latter company.Originally posted by drZaius09
Are you serious? Do you know this for a fact or just speculation?
me too.Originally posted by ER!C L!VE
:woo: <-- eric running away
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.