ER!C L!VE
Master Don Juan
:cheer: :cheer:Originally posted by Oblivious
You're doing awesome!
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
:cheer: :cheer:Originally posted by Oblivious
You're doing awesome!
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Give it 5 years. Then you'll be gagging for old fogies like us as you madly put on the wrinkle cream.Originally posted by Oblivious
As a younger woman, I must say that I wouldn't give you old foogies the time of day. You act as juvenile as any 25 year old or younger that I know. If you guys were worth what you thought you were, you wouldn't still be single prying on young butt.
But it doesn't seem like you guys are looking for much substance anyway, but just pure sleeze. And if thats your bag, then GOOD for you. You're doing awesome! But grow up! I guess some guys never do.
nice username, seems appropriate! you sound a tad bitter, jaded, and icy.Originally posted by Oblivious
As a younger woman, I must say that I wouldn't give you old foogies the time of day. You act as juvenile as any 25 year old or younger that I know. If you guys were worth what you thought you were, you wouldn't still be single prying on young butt.
But it doesn't seem like you guys are looking for much substance anyway, but just pure sleeze. And if thats your bag, then GOOD for you. You're doing awesome! But grow up! I guess some guys never do.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
then get lost. seriously, what the hell are you here for? to try to set us sleezy old men "straight"? to try to teach us about women?Originally posted by Oblivious
There's living proof on this forum.
Is it just me or does someone sound a bit bitter for some strange reason?Originally posted by Oblivious
Doubt it! I'm not saying I wouldn't date an old man. But I wouldn't date an old man with the maturity of a ten year old. To me it seems like the old men seeking out the younger girls. We just decide to give them the time of day if we so desire. I see alot of ads from old men seeking out women to be their Sugar Daddies. One ad I saw, this dude said he would give a chick $3000 allowance a month and dall she had to do was visit him in NYC once or twice a month. Sounds like a desperate old man to me. Cause he wasted his youth trying to play the field. Sad!
But I am sure that there are some older men out there who have a lot to offer, mature and are worth the time of day cause they no longer need to post on dating forums. Age doesn't men you are mature. There's living proof on this forum.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
we will. now shut your pie hole and think about making an appointment with PerfectPaws for that chump you're gonna get from eharmony.Originally posted by Oblivious
What a totally obvious way of trying to detract the truth. Denial isn't a good look. But believe what you want.
speaking from experience, i have never found this to be the case as of yet, on pay sites. why would someone pay 20 bucks a month to put up a fake profile?Originally posted by picard
All the online dating sites have fake women profiles. There are only some actual real women. I tried different sites such as yahoo, laval life etc... I now sign on to brick & motar dating agency. They find me real flesh & blood woman instead of cyberchick.![]()
Same reason why 99% of people do business on the internet-- to sell pornography to creepy old men. But I agree with you to a point, these are more prevalent on the "adult" dating sites like AFF. You're probably not going to find too much of this sh1t on match or yahoo or anything like that.Originally posted by TooColdUlrick
speaking from experience, i have never found this to be the case as of yet, on pay sites. why would someone pay 20 bucks a month to put up a fake profile?
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
There are tons of reasons why there are many "fake" or dead profiles:Originally posted by TooColdUlrick
speaking from experience, i have never found this to be the case as of yet, on pay sites. why would someone pay 20 bucks a month to put up a fake profile?
Are you serious? Do you know this for a fact or just speculation?Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
FYI guys, those fake posts are occasionally placed by employees of the site for the sake of allowing AFCs the feeling that there is someone on the site that they may have a chance with.
AFF and Erocity are famous for doing this. i seriously doubt that match and yahoo would do such a thing. way too risky, esp. for the latter company.Originally posted by drZaius09
Are you serious? Do you know this for a fact or just speculation?
me too.Originally posted by ER!C L!VE
:woo: <-- eric running away
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.